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#41
Originally Posted by TrueJournals View Post
Of course you WOULD have been able to if this was in the maemo.org forum, like it should be

We're talking about the forums here... is anyone going to move this into maemo.org? There is some very NOT off topic discussion going on here...
Well, its about the thanks in off topic. I said perhaps I made the wrong decision? stop harping on me man!!

Hey Mods, move this baby if it belongs in mameo.org?

Additionally whats going on with the tag abuses?
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#42
Originally Posted by penguinbait View Post
I just went to hit thanks, but I couldn't

So, Thanks
Me too.

Thread moved to "maemo.org" and Thanks is now available.

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#43
Darn it... now I have to go through the whole thread and look for people I would have thanked
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#44
Btw, I edited the tags of this thread. Yes, people have been abusing thread tags lately. It's annoying.

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#45
Originally Posted by Reggie View Post
What is so difficult to just post a 'Thanks!' to a thread here in off-topic?


Here's what I think:
  1. Thanks! should not be available in off-topic, the same way off-topic posts do not count to post count
  2. If it should be, remove Thanks! from maemo.org karma computation. Why get karma for talking about religion, politics, your dog, or your favorite sci-fi movie.
  3. If it needs to be in the karma, there should be something to counter act it like a No Thanks! or some kind of negative reputation. While we're at it, lets implement an automatic ban (for a week) for members like getting No Thanks! on a post, from say 30 senior members.
  4. Maybe we should just remove Off-topic
Thankyou...

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To everyone else...

What is so hard about replying to a post that you agree with in an off topic thread?


Ironicly the posts I wish to thank are the ones calling for no thanks in off topic threads.

For the record... and as long as I am posting a reply, I also agree with the following posts:

Originally Posted by bunanson View Post
Are we being too harsh on the GA? Honestly, I have NOT encountered any offense/irritating/rough to search sort of thing (of course, from my own standard) postings from GA for a long time. I think some of the old timers here still remember the old razar sharp toned GA. For me, I just see that he,
1) tones down and mellow alot nowadays,
2) works very hard behind the scene, maemo.org council type of things,
3) works very hard in helping to make a smooth transition of the maemo talk thingy, (not to my likeness, but this is not the subject)

...AND nobody seems to notice/acknowlegde that! I know, it is fun to pick on GA (me too, sometimes, he is such a celeb here) lets NOT overdo and drive GA into the other directions.

PB: sorry to hijack the thread, just want to stop the rain before it pours.


bun

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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
People discussing an issue is the only way to come to a consensus.



Polls are not consensus. Polls are a bunch of people voting for whichever option they think is best with nobody arriving at any sort of agreement in the end (i.e., majority rule). Whoever manages to dredge up the most votes "wins" (and with the voluntary response and small sample size, forums polls are hardly accurate). Polls tend to ignore minority viewpoints and tend to arrive at solutions which (depending on the number and type of poll options) are agreeable primarily to the proponents of the winning option, which, with enough poll options, is likely to not even be a majority.

The way to come to a consensus is to do basically exactly what you're doing now with these polls, but minus the polls. Bring up your issue, propose whatever you want (although starting out with proposals can stymie more interesting discussion on some issues), then have a discussion about the issue and arrive at a consensus that's generally agreeable to as many parties as possible. Not a voting result that you can use as a bat to beat everybody else with into doing whatever it says.


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Originally Posted by mullf View Post
I promise not to create a poll asking if polls are good or bad.

Traditionaly a Poll is posted after the consensus of the discusion thread is that a Poll would provide additional information.
Even then their value is questionable.

Hopefuly this discusion will be moved as TrueJournals suggests.

Then perhaps a new discusion proposing a moritorium of at least a week on new forum change requests can be started.
 

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Originally Posted by Reggie View Post
If it should be, remove Thanks! from maemo.org karma computation. Why get karma for talking about religion, politics, your dog, or your favorite sci-fi movie.
The only reason why I would say people should get Karma for these discussions is because it involves community participation (which is a good thing) -- even if it's not tablet- or Maemo-related. But, I'm not sure that's a strong enough argument for more people here.

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#47
tag abuse is fun tho!
its not like they can statistically effect things.
and if they start too, maybe theres a reason.

slashdot has tagging and you can sometimes read the whole community mood in just 2 or 3 words.
its incredible information density
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Originally Posted by lcuk View Post
tag abuse is fun tho!
its not like they can statistically effect things.
and if they start too, maybe theres a reason.

slashdot has tagging and you can sometimes read the whole community mood in just 2 or 3 words.
its incredible information density
This is true, yes, but I have seen some personal flames/abuse happen in the tags as well. That's not good.

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obviously not, and obvious trolling and flaming is right to be cleaned up, just like other things
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Originally Posted by YoDude View Post
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
People discussing an issue is the only way to come to a consensus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...sensus_polling

Consensus polling is a method of adducing consensus for a given proposal, using a structured polling method which can easily indicate how many people are in support of a proposal, and how many people are not yet in support of a proposal. A consensus poll is not a vote, that is there are no winners or losers; rather a consensus poll is a measure of approval.

As I said, this is a discussion. If a discussion appears to have a large segment support Council can raise it to higher visibility get more consensus, maybe run more polls, or open more threads and come to a decision. If no support is shown in initial consensus poll, there is probably not a lot of reason to argue about it, because people don't support it.

This was not meant to be some heated discussion, just a topic to discuss.
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