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2009-07-27 , 07:41
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#41
Originally Posted by andy80 View Post
I'd like to see a presentation about the status of Qt for Maemo.
There is one already in the works for Friday afternoon. Peter will put it in the schedule as soon as we have the name(s?) confirmed. That's for the overview of Qt on Fremantle and the path to Harmattan. Then the idea is to have someone from Maemo, Forum Nokia and/or Qt to have a practical hands-on workshop on the weekend.

More details expected in August.
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2009-07-30 , 22:10
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#42
I'd love to see more user focussed presentations from cool applications like Canola, Maemo Mapper, ScrummVM and all of the other great Maemo applications that users would get excited about, if only they knew:
  1. They exist
  2. What they do
  3. What's cool about that
  4. How to get it, install it and do cool stuff with it

Any application developers or packagers want to make some proposals along those lines?

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2009-07-31 , 13:19
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#43
Originally Posted by qgil View Post
How to make the most of community feedback. A discussion session with a very interactive setting where Maemo Devices product managers and top bugs.m.o and brainstorm.m.o contributors can understand better each other and set higher levels of collaboration.

1h in big room? Like a real panel?
Sorry to arrive late to the discussion.

The main question for me is, what do these people have to say that will interest the entire Maemo community for an hour?

My favourite panels are ones where there is real conflict, real grey areas with people who are subject to different constraints confronting them, and where the audience is both split and heavily involved in the session.

What you're proposing sounds like a meeting, with an audience. I'm not sure how that would be interesting to everyone, unless we can inject some tension to it which creates a "death match" type feel to the day.

We *could* do a Hildon/GTK+ vs Qt death-match, I suppose... on condition that it wouldn't be to the death.

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2009-07-31 , 13:39
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#44
That was a long time ago. That original idea evolved into

Summit 09: Call for Input for Ari Jaaksi dialog, which seems to have some of the ingredients you mention.

There will also be a good representation of product managers and we are thinking of closing them in a room with an equivalent number of qualified users / community members and have 1to1 chats. Then they would summarize either with a session the next day or something. To be polished.
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2009-07-31 , 13:49
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#45
Originally Posted by qgil View Post
There will also be a good representation of product managers and we are thinking of closing them in a room with an equivalent number of qualified users / community members and have 1to1 chats. Then they would summarize either with a session the next day or something. To be polished.
Sounds good. A free for all with 200 attendees doesn't seem like a good idea but conveying the outcome to the rest is a must.
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2009-07-31 , 14:21
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#46
Here's a list of sessions I'd love to see someone from the community pick up & run with:
  • Tablet as internet device - show off different internet applications that you can get for the device, like Pidgin, Modest, browser, Skype, and make a nice 20 minute presentation of how they all fit together nicely
  • Tablet as personal media device: Copying films to watch on the bus, music collection software that exists (Canola anyone?), and all of the other general coolness that you can fit on the N810
  • Tablet as creative device: Creative software like Xournal, liqbase, pitivi, maemo-recorder that you can use to create and publish podcasts, blogs, drawings, video, etc.
  • Tablet as media broadcasting device - how to use your N810 to stream video
  • For more ideas, see the "Users" section in the wiki: http://wiki.maemo.org/Category:Users

I would heartily welcome such user-focussed rather than technology-focussed presentations which show how you can do cool stuff with your tablet.

I would also heartily welcome presentations from people who have done really cool stuff with their tablets that are hardware hacks

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#47
Originally Posted by dneary View Post
[I would also heartily welcome presentations from people who have done really cool stuff with their tablets that are hardware hacks

Dave.
Dave.
Reminds me of the robot with the Nokia tablet 'Brain'. How about a talk of other OS custom alternatives? Android, a KDE install, Mer, Debian e.t.c in one talk?

I especially welcome anyone with an Android bias to talk about their experiences with the hardware running Android! (or Ubuntu remix e.t.c).
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#48
It would be nice if one of the Qt talks (or an extra talk) would show how/why Qt is better for developers than the current Gtk+/Hildon. Especially how Qt on Maemo will handle mobile specific API for small screens, finger usage, etc...

Will there be extra API with new behavior or will it be the default API with different behavior? Will there be new mobile widgets? If yes, are those widgets available in the desktop version? Is the interface designer able to show how the interface is looking on a mobile device? Can it use the mobile widgets? What needs to be done to port an application from desktop to mobile or vice versa (in a way that it looks and feels good on both devices)? How will portrait mode work? Etc. etc. etc.....

I think there are many unanswered questions about that (e.g. here) and to avoid the current Fremantle Hildon/Gtk API mess/confusion it would be good to discuss it this time before code gets written.
 

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#49
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It would be nice if one of the Qt talks
I'm in talks with one of the Qt people right now about what sessions their devs could bring to the table. Hopefully one or two of them will step up.

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Originally Posted by qgil View Post
That was a long time ago. That original idea evolved into

Summit 09: Call for Input for Ari Jaaksi dialog, which seems to have some of the ingredients you mention.

There will also be a good representation of product managers and we are thinking of closing them in a room with an equivalent number of qualified users / community members and have 1to1 chats. Then they would summarize either with a session the next day or something. To be polished.
I hope those qualified users can offer some input about what is going to matter for the average Joe user (i.e.: UI) instead of discussing development issues that may be too obscure to be of interest for the standar user (no offense to any of the developers here, I respect your work inmensely, but most of the ideas I see proposed in this thread either elicit a "?" from me, and I am engineer).

Everytime I see a demo or video of the HTC Hero, I think "now that is the UI I have been waiting for". As a user, I don't care if such an slick UI it runs on QT, GTK, or whatever. The only reason I don't give up on Nokia and get one already is the hope that the N900 HW + SW + community will surpass that.

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