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2009-09-02
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#42
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Mauku 2.0 beta 3 is out now and is going to extras-testing today.
This version introduces ability to follow comments of a tweet (if known by the application; Twitter API is very limited with this aspect).
Note that you have to remove cache directory manually before upgrading if you have used beta 1 or beta 2 previously. Type
rm -Rf /home/user/.microfeed
in the terminal before starting application manager.
This version introduces ability to follow comments of a tweet (if known by the application; Twitter API is very limited with this aspect).
Note that you have to remove cache directory manually before upgrading if you have used beta 1 or beta 2 previously. Type
rm -Rf /home/user/.microfeed
in the terminal before starting application manager.
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2009-09-02
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#43
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Hi,
I was testing Mauku 2.0 this weekend, Widgets have changed quite a lot from the older version and it looks great
Findings:
I was testing Mauku 2.0 this weekend, Widgets have changed quite a lot from the older version and it looks great
Findings:
- When i'm not connected to network i get an annoying message "Could not get feed" every minute.
- Few crashes when trying to save settings and updating
- Input fields for username/password weren't great
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2009-09-02
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#44
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Originally Posted by mani
I think everything you described was related to the Microfeed backend. It is open source library that is under active development (by me
I would like to contribute to mauku, But just wondering where to start
). I appreciate any help and all contributions are welcome.See the relevant thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=29942
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2009-09-03
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#45
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Just a question here. I haven't used the new Mauku, but I heard that you're using yellow to denote that a tweet is the start of a thread, correct? Like the 3rd image in your first post?
I really don't think that the color is very intuitive to indicate that it's the start of a thread. If I see yellow on a tweet, it makes me immediately think "favorited".
I think it's a lot more intuitive if you simply use tree view style triangles on the right side (not left as in the image below). Triangle pointing to the right to indicate that the tweet is the start of a thread. Upon click, the triangle spins downward exposing the rest of the thread. Having the rest of the thread be slightly indented from the left will further reenforce that those tweets are part of the same thread. Standard tree view behavior that everyone's familiar with.
Last edited by zerojay; 2009-09-03 at 18:01.
I really don't think that the color is very intuitive to indicate that it's the start of a thread. If I see yellow on a tweet, it makes me immediately think "favorited".
I think it's a lot more intuitive if you simply use tree view style triangles on the right side (not left as in the image below). Triangle pointing to the right to indicate that the tweet is the start of a thread. Upon click, the triangle spins downward exposing the rest of the thread. Having the rest of the thread be slightly indented from the left will further reenforce that those tweets are part of the same thread. Standard tree view behavior that everyone's familiar with.
Last edited by zerojay; 2009-09-03 at 18:01.
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2009-09-04
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#46
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Originally Posted by zerojay
Actually, no. Yellow means that a tweet is a reply.
Just a question here. I haven't used the new Mauku, but I heard that you're using yellow to denote that a tweet is the start of a thread, correct? Like the 3rd image in your first post?
Blue is the default colour meaning a normal tweet (which may be a start of a thread). But, yes, the idea you had is correct. (The origin of this colour scheme is Jaiku.)
Originally Posted by zerojay
There is a small star on the top-left corner of a favoried tweet in Mauku 2.0 (the star was on right side in old Mauku 0.x).
I really don't think that the color is very intuitive to indicate that it's the start of a thread. If I see yellow on a tweet, it makes me immediately think "favorited".
Originally Posted by zerojay
This was considered when designing the new Mauku 2.0 UI. However, there are couple of issues with tree style views in Mauku and Fremantle.
I think it's a lot more intuitive if you simply use tree view style triangles on the right side (not left as in the image below).
First, the depth of a such tree could be anything. There would be a single first tweet, but after that tweets could be nested very deeply, since replies may have replies also. (Jaiku prevents this and have actually a concept of a thread, but Twitter does not.) If every level were intended, let's say, 20 pixels, only after few levels, the message area would be very narrow.
Secondly, Mauku is built on the concept of timeline. The latest tweets are always on the top of the window. If tweets were grouped into threads, it would be much harder to find latest tweets, since an user had to browse all active threads to read new comments.
Thirdly, the Fremantle HIG does not encourage to use of nested tree style lists.
I can see why. Instead, subwindows should be used.When an user clicks a tweet in Mauku 2.0, a dialog appears (third image in my first post). If a tweet has (known) comments or is a reply, there are options to open a new window with the whole thread of tweets related to the selected tweet (a refererred tweet with the selected comment and other comments or the selected tweet with comments). It is similar, but not the same, functionality than in old Mauku 0.x, and solves the issues listed above.
However, thank you very much for the idea.
Keep them coming!P.S. I have discussed about these things with a professional interaction designer also. Tree view was the first idea he had also.
However, after some discussion, he changed his opinion.
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2009-09-04
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#47
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Originally Posted by hhedberg
I was thinking just a single level of nesting, exactly how Jaiku has it.
First, the depth of a such tree could be anything. There would be a single first tweet, but after that tweets could be nested very deeply, since replies may have replies also. (Jaiku prevents this and have actually a concept of a thread, but Twitter does not.) If every level were intended, let's say, 20 pixels, only after few levels, the message area would be very narrow.
Thanks for responding.
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2009-09-04
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#48
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Having played with Mauku on an N900 and the SDK, some comments:
- One upgrade resulted in Twitter saying "provider closed connection". The preferences box had lost the custom fields (e.g. "username") and I couldn't delete them. Had to delete [font=monospace]~/.microfeed[/url] (or whatever it was) in X Terminal.
- Switching to and from the Overview (the main screen for my use cases) to send a new message is cumbersome. AppMenu entry as well, please.
- I want to be able to subscribe to a search (e.g. #NW09) and have that appear in the overview (perhaps the use of colour to show items which have come from your searches).
- I want a "Share with Twitpic" service so I can take a picture with the camera, post it to Twitpic and have it linked into my Twitter feed in one go.
- Open link doesn't work at all. It shows a list of the URLs in a tweet, but there's no "open" button and double-tapping on an item doesn't do anything at all. All I can do is close the dialogue and type the URL manually.
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2009-09-05
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#49
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Originally Posted by Jaffa
It means that the provider crashed. There will be actually two improvements on this: Providers will be much more stable when bugs are fixed, and if some provider still crashed a subscriber (the application) will restart the provider and resubscribe transparently all feeds it had open before the provider crashed. (Mauku and Microfeed backend are separate processes.)
One upgrade resulted in Twitter saying "provider closed connection". The preferences box had lost the custom fields (e.g. "username") and I couldn't delete them. Had to delete [font=monospace]~/.microfeed[/url] (or whatever it was) in X Terminal.
Originally Posted by Jaffa
This is actually against HIG, but I like the idea. An option in the AppMenu could be for advanced users, when the main window is still there for beginners.
Switching to and from the Overview (the main screen for my use cases) to send a new message is cumbersome. AppMenu entry as well, please.
Originally Posted by Jaffa
I was planning to implement search in a separate window, but I like your idea too. Let's see what happens.
I want to be able to subscribe to a search (e.g. #NW09) and have that appear in the overview (perhaps the use of colour to show items which have come from your searches).
Originally Posted by Jaffa
Integration with the camera is not yet planned. However, viewing pictures in tweets is planned, but I am not yet sure when it lands.
I want a "Share with Twitpic" service so I can take a picture with the camera, post it to Twitpic and have it linked into my Twitter feed in one go.
Originally Posted by Jaffa
Known in issue in beta. Will be fixed in the next version.
Open link doesn't work at all. It shows a list of the URLs in a tweet, but there's no "open" button and double-tapping on an item doesn't do anything at all. All I can do is close the dialogue and type the URL manually.
Thanks for your comments and ideas.
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2009-09-05
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Originally Posted by hhedberg
OK, that should be sufficient. Pixelpipe can do the Twitpic (and others) upload - or a new one should be able to be written trivally; a sharing plugin isn't really the scope of Mauku.
Integration with the camera is not yet planned. However, viewing pictures in tweets is planned, but I am not yet sure when it lands.
Viewing linked images would be cool, even if they're only tiny thumbnails.
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