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2009-09-22
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Exit polls are wonderful things -- they provide an independent estimation of how the election will turn out.
In the recent election in Iran, if there had been a reliable exit poll, the controversy would not have occurred; it would be pretty obvious who really won.
In the recent election in Iran, if there had been a reliable exit poll, the controversy would not have occurred; it would be pretty obvious who really won.
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2009-09-22
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Originally Posted by timsamoff
Don't think author being candidate or not makes any difference here. Also don't think it is major problem. To me it feels a bit inappropriate and unconventional but I don't see it as real problem. And after all I felt similar about this poll too so I'm not surprised with this one either ;-) Looks like penguinbait simply loves to create polls about anything :-)
I think the major problem is that the poll was created by one of the candidates.
Anyway, maybe anything that gives our candidates opportunity to express themselves and anything that raises awareness about Maemo council elections in general is a good thing including exit polls :-)
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2009-09-22
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Originally Posted by fanoush
I'd like to point out that more people voted in that poll than did in the last election for council.
Don't think author being candidate or not makes any difference here. Also don't think it is major problem. To me it feels a bit inappropriate and unconventional but I don't see it as real problem. And after all I felt similar about this poll too so I'm not surprised with this one either ;-) Looks like penguinbait simply loves to create polls about anything :-)
Anyway, maybe anything that gives our candidates opportunity to express themselves and anything that raises awareness about Maemo council elections in general is a good thing including exit polls :-)
Perhaps we need the number of polls created to the user stats section
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2009-09-22
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Originally Posted by penguinbait
Because the real polls are still open dude.
It was intended only for fun. Why are you NOT happy. It seems to show a great diversity in voting which is a good thing. Nobody has an edge over anyone else from this poll.
I am conflicted on polls in real life. It seems like most political polls are made to convince you of an outcome before it happens. This was not the intent here, it was not intended to upset anyone.
Again it was only for fun.
I vote that this thread be removed... Just for fun.
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2009-09-22
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Originally Posted by YoDude
I vote that if this thread is removed, all pretense of free discussion here be abandoned and it be openly acknowledged that this site is controlled by certain narrow interests for their benefit only.
Because the real polls are still open dude.
I vote that this thread be removed... Just for fun.
The original vote was a sham, and the exit polls make this less of a sham.
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2009-09-22
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Originally Posted by geneven
The evil Maemo Community Council cabal is out to get me! The communists are taking away my freedom! Nokia wants to keep down the working man! You all just want to steal my pocket lint!
I vote that if this thread is removed, all pretense of free discussion here be abandoned and it be openly acknowledged that this site is controlled by certain narrow interests for their benefit only.
The original vote was a sham, and the exit polls make this less of a sham.
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2009-09-23
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Originally Posted by geneven
A legitimate exit poll yes, not one skewed to one class of voter (forum participants) and certainly not one that publishes results while the real polls are open. Perhaps in the future, this kind of poll could run as a service sponsored by a third party and the results view could be delayed until after real voting is over with.
I vote that if this thread is removed, all pretense of free discussion here be abandoned and it be openly acknowledged that this site is controlled by certain narrow interests for their benefit only.
The original vote was a sham, and the exit polls make this less of a sham.
No matter what the intent, published results of an exit poll will effect votes not yet cast.
I have plenty more to say but I will not say it until AFTER the polls close and in another thread...
Someone had a signature awhile ago about the states of a cat in a box that now somehow seems appropriate.
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2009-09-23
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I understand what you're saying YoDude, having heard it for years... but I guess it just continues to confound me that any voter would let himself or herself be influenced by exit polls. Hell my own family can't even influence my vote!
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2009-09-23
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Originally Posted by YoDude
A legitimate exit poll yes, not one skewed to one class of voter (forum participants) and certainly not one that publishes results while the real polls are open. Perhaps in the future, this kind of poll could run as a service sponsored by a third party and the results view could be delayed until after real voting is over with.
No matter what the intent, published results of an exit poll will effect votes not yet cast.
I have plenty more to say but I will not say it until AFTER the polls close and in another thread...
Someone had a signature awhile ago about the states of a cat in a box that now somehow seems appropriate.
Are Exit Polls not normally run while the polls are open? Aren't they normally reported while the election is still under-way? I know in Michigan they poll you on the way out and you hear about the exit poll results on the news long before polls close and the actual counts are in.
Additionally the main problem with Exit Polls is IF the reporting entity projects a winner. Nobody hear is declaring a winner, on top of that this is a STV system.
This means even IF this did project a clear winner it would only be the winner of the most votes, it has no bearing on who will get the second and third and fourth and fifth votes. This poll is meaningless except to possibly predict the person who received the most votes which means they will be one of the new council members.
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Therefore the majority don't care / don't have a big problem with it / are ok with it.
I suppose that there could be a large silent majority that have a big problem with it but for some reason won't speak up. I suppose we could run a poll on that
Just my $0.02
On a side note, since this is an exit poll, you were my 2nd choice
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