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Mixu	2009-11-18 , 21:16
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Originally Posted by stl1859

yeah - but isn't that basically doing a canola cleanup followed by installing beta 11 ?

The latest update works for me - which means that it is some freak error that is causing that python error for some. Its really sad that nobody from canola dev. seems to be looking at the bug reports posted.

At risk of sounding like a broken record again - have any of you tried installing ALL plugins and ALL themes and checked to see if that helped ( in the past I have only talked about one specific plugin)

I just tried installing bloody everything that has canola in its name and nothing.

I guess developers don't care about N8x0 any more. Most threads here are about N900 nowadays. What a shame...

I don't remember anymore what kind of media player N900 has but maybe it's good enough so that there's no point to develop Canola anymore.

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	hordeman	2009-11-19 , 06:11
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ok... i just tried upgrading thinking it was safe to do so. BIG MISTAKE. Like others, the plugins don't work ... I just want my album art back.

Can anyone help me get Beta 11 back? I can't find it anywhere.

For the record, the latest version does work, but there isn't anything drastically different... so if you have beta11 DON'T UPGRADE!!!

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lschumanfcoe	2009-11-19 , 07:34
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Even if the upgrade ever works properly, I'm kind of wondering about the purpose. This time there doesn't seem to have been any fanfare; I've only had my N810 for 11 months but I recall developer-started threads with Canola 2 announcements and a lot of updated news on the program's website. The last thing I recall hearing from Canola 2's developers involved a competition that was to lead to new user-developed themes. It was way over my head so I never participated, though I was anticipating some new themes to try. Did any ever materialize?

I hope I don't sound like I'm ungrateful. Even with its (for me) currently limited function as a music player, I am still amazed with how smoothly functioning and great looking Canola 2 truly is. It would just be a shame to have it fade away like this.

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Tzeentch	2009-11-19 , 15:40
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I got caught too. I had disabled the extra-devel repository to make sure I wasn't getting anything that would break functionalities.
But when I was notified of updates via the desktop, I tried to install that version o Canola2.
After getting the initial blockers, I uninstalled Canola2 beta11 and installed that new version. After firing it up all I got is the Music and Photo icons.
I use Canola2 for much more, especially podcast through RSS feeds...

So what's the sure way to downgrade back to beta11 without breaking anything?

Posted bug 6253 : https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6253

Last edited by Tzeentch; 2009-11-19 at 16:45. Reason: Added Bugzilla

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	hordeman	2009-11-19 , 22:00
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Yeah, going back to Beta 11 is what I'd like to do, but unless this problem gets fixed with the newer version, we'll be SOL when we reflash our devices.

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GeraldKo	2009-11-20 , 23:19
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Originally Posted by hordeman

Yeah, going back to Beta 11 is what I'd like to do, but unless this problem gets fixed with the newer version, we'll be SOL when we reflash our devices.

You're right. And it's a pisser.

Also, I believe there is no more Canola development team. Period.

Shortly after I started this thread, I wrote to "handful" -- the main contact between us (at the time, InternetTabletTalk.com) and the developers (OpenBossa, a Nokia-affiliated group in Brazil). He never responded.

Then, three days ago, I emailed the development team, from the OpenBossa website, the following, and I never heard back.

*Many* N800 and N810 users are having trouble with a recent (October 31?) Canola2 update, as described briefly in my originating post of this thread:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=33799

Please take a look at that thread, in maemo.org (previously InternetTabletTalk.com).

Could someone from OpenBossa please either write back to me or get on the thread and help people. I wrote to openbossa's usual contact person with maemo.org's (InternetTabletTalk's) -- "handful" = Marcelo Eduardo -- and didn't hear back from him.

Also, it would be very useful -- especially for instances like this -- for users to be able to access older installation files; most open-source developers keep those available. I can't find them for Canola2 and its plug-ins. Where are they? (I found links such as here:

http://www.openbossa.indt.org/canola2/install.html and
http://openbossa.indt.org.br/canola1/help.html

but there is no way, at least on my PC just looking at the Web, to see precisely what files I would be downloading. You also have files on your "garage" page, but those are old and don't seem to have been updated.

I very much hope to hear from you and see someone from the Canola2 development team on the talk.maemo.org thread I referenced at the beginning of this email. Thanks!

I hate this disappearing debs problem. It's starting to crop up elsewhere, too, like here:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...9&postcount=40

I'm getting the feeling I need to download, to my PC, debs for all of my many, many NIT programs so my N800 doesn't get obsoleted. It shouldn't be like that.

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lschumanfcoe	2009-11-21 , 17:54
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Originally Posted by GeraldKo

You're right. And it's a pisser.

Also, I believe there is no more Canola development team. Period.

For those of you who have been around for a while, this kind of thing is unusual, right? It seems odd that a long-standing and beloved program that has been developed, updated and maintained with such care (not to mention one that has a vocally appreciative and devoted fan base) would be mangled by a broken official upgrade and abandoned once and for all.

Back in 2008 when I was researching some potential gadgets, Canola 2 was featured again and again as a "killer app" and a major reason for going with a Nokia tablet.

I hope the "killer app" hasn't been murdered in turn, by its developers! To quote Shakespeare (or not): "...'twould be a foul deed..."

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	Fargus	2009-11-21 , 18:01
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Originally Posted by lschumanfcoe

Lucky! And usually I'm the late adopter.

Actually when the update showed I went to install and it threw a fit. I've been up against deadlines for development so I didn't bother and now I am glad I didn't!

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	hordeman	2009-11-21 , 19:19
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Well, here's the link to beta11. I tried installing, but it complained about all these other dependencies. When I tried to manually install the dependancies, I got an incompatible package error. When I tried to do an "apt-get -f install", I get a can't find the .deb error.

Anybody know how to resolve for this? http://repository.maemo.org/extras-d...maemo3_all.deb

Last edited by hordeman; 2009-11-21 at 19:34.