It's ordered!!
woop!

Hello Kingsley. I also had a N82 before the N900 (and I also live in soton! ). Do you think that phone was finished?

I tried to install ovi maps 3 on the N82 for fun yesterday (as all navigation became free) and the phone wouldn't do it. I had to reflash it and manually delete some files from the flash card.

Having said that, the N82 was a really good phone IMHO. And IMHO the N900 is already better.

The only features I am missing from the N82 is the xenon flash and T9. Any of the other features like Video Calling (i never ever used it) or MMS (it has become available as a community app) were never that important to me anyway.

Of course now that Ovi Maps 3.0 turn by turn navigation is free, I would like that too, but then I can use my N82 for this until something comes up for maemo.

I hope this helps!

Cool so there's at least one for me to keep my eyes peeled for!

Yeah i really like the camera, but i heard somewhere Nokia are abandoning the Xeon flashes alltogether?

This'll be my first mobile in 10 years not on orange too so all change!

Can't wait!

Seeing as Nokia is a finnish firm, I certainly believe it is 'finnished'.

(Sorry, couldn't let that one go :-) )

Paai

By definition, it can't be finished ever. Because the hardware part (which IS finished) is only a small part of the whole - the software is much more important. And software is NEVER finished :-)
Especially not on a platform as powerful as maemo!

I've never even dream of Intel...
http://meego.com/

I do like it when people come out saying that maemo is great and that it is going to get better. But is it? Maemo just got canned and will become MeeGo. Or am I the only one that sees another dead end platform that will be merged. Maemo might live on in Meego, but the N900 will become an evolutionary dead end. Nokia has a recent history of dumping phones relatively quickly and I can see it happening again. My carrier dumped the N97 full version after a couple of months, even the N97 mini never got taken on. I see the bigger picture and it is all about market share, Nokia is losing out to everyone becaues symbian is old, slow and not fit to fight the new breeds of phones like the iphone and Android. So it is merging with rivals to gain ground, that rival is IBM and that means a casualty will be Maemo. Two platforms can't be supported never mind three and they haven't killed symbian off because the other 4 squllion handsets they insist on producing still use it.

You can't compare Maemo or this phone to windows, windows was written when there was little development cycle, because there was not a PC in every house, computer science wasn't taught in every school and the micro chip wasn't in everything. AND the most important factor it has to work with over a hundred different manufacturers of hardware when standards meant little, coping with drivers, old and new, bugs, games etc. Maemo on the N900 has one hardware spec. Just one. It came out in a world where everything from your fridge to your watch can go online. It came out in a world where EVERYOTHER device it is competing with has some functionality that it lacks. More importantly, still is lacking.

I like the N900 but for the price and what I use it for, no review told me the SMS support was bad or MMS was ignored. And a community app that requires online connection and connecting to servers is appalling for people who value security and battery life. Compared to HTC, Apple and Android, Nokia has a serious fight on their hands and I don't think they know it, given the N97 didn't have full stop and comma on the keyboard, and the N900 isn't a phone. I don't think they understand it, or at least their developers and designers don't.

nothing will be ever finished. devices evolve via iterations.

It's Intel, not IBM.

Why should they kill Symbian (this early)? Most of the smartphones in the world run Symbian, and Maemo/MeeGo isn't there yet to replace Symbian. Nokia insists the N97 being their flagship smartphone, not the N900.


MMS always works by connecting online to servers. It's just that the other phones hide this fact from the user when they support MMS natively. This doesn't improve battery life or security, really. The MMS community app is getting help by Nokia, so it's not purely a community effort, either.

OK. That is all true... but... what's your point?