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#41
Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
I think the continuation of this thread proves my point and disproves yours.
Indeed. It is usually in the most open communities and governments that people cry wolf about censorship and abuse. What they fail to realise is that abuse and censorship they cry about wouldn't allow them to formulate their thoughts in the first place, had it ever existed.

In other words, the paradox of free thought: The freer it is, the narrower it becomes.
 

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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
w00t I love you, man. Thanks for the sanity and understanding.

It just amazes me that people are so fast to pass judgment without considering the context of why I would inject my opinion into that closing statement in question.

I would respectfully request that people consider there's a history when that happens. I don't jump the nebulous gap between member and moderator on a whim, folks.

I'm out. Had enough today.
*sigh*

Enjoy your break I guess, Tex. I would think you know full well I understand the history, I was merely offering my word of warning on appearance - and not at all attacking your moderating, or your decisions.

I've never personally seen you overstep your bounds. In fact, several times I've often thought you had full right to enact a moderation during discussions that you never did - but at the same time I'm saying that when doing what your saying (offering an opinion in a closing statement) - it appears like a personal act of moderation, rather than a logical one to the general populace.

I know you, I know that wasn't/isn't/never has been your intent and I know you don't mod that way.. but to newcomers, or to people who don't read all the sections of the forum to get a full picture: Seeing a somewhat off-handed remark right before a close makes people wonder what happened there.

That was my only intention. Sometimes you really let that heart on your sleeve take more of a beating than was meant, man . (at least from me)
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Originally Posted by penguinbait View Post
I am sorry I mentioned NO closed posts or mods, I DID NOT MENTION YOU.
You're actually saying the first post here wasn't addressing the thread of h3llraz0r's I closed? Really?
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Originally Posted by fms View Post
And you are obviously considering yourself the one indispensable tool for preventing the community from going into complete chaos, the lone hero, the last guard at the gates of hell, keeping the devils in? How familiar...
He's a moderator. That's called a job. An unpaid one at that. It's his responsibility to make those decisions and act on them.

If you have specific complaints or questions, I'm quite sure PMing Tex for an explanation, or PMing Reggie with a complaint is perfectly acceptable.

Some threads are just simply completely useless, provide nothing but negativity, and do not need to be perpetuated any further. That's where the mods come in.
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Ok. let's be constructive then.

Let us help you help the Community Textrat.

Forget about the past. Past shmast. How can we make this a better place?

How about. We make it clear that this is not a service forum for nokia? have a banner? stickies? you know"? make it clear?

so at least then with have better bases for the actions we take?

Why not have a grievances category? you quickly dismissed the suggestion? why?
 

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#46
Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
Only a sociopath would react that way. Think about it. Talk about immature!

w00t I love you, man. Thanks for the sanity and understanding.
So anyone who disagrees with you is an insane sociopath.

I'm out. Had enough today.
Yeah, right.
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
Where do you see that I made such a statement?

Nothing is "my" way. There is an expected behavior for the forum. *I* didn't set it. I simply moderate in alignment. Talk to Reggie and the super moderators about rules.

And if you think getting frustrated by the decline in civility here is "taking my toys and going home" then you are severely trivializing the issue.

Maybe you should try this role for a while?


I never said such a ridiculous thing. Quit reading into what I say.

You're also invited to try the job.

Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
SD69 if you think I actually closed the thread over raw opinion rather than the original poster's rule-breaking actions then we're speaking totally different languages.

I'll make you guys happy though: I'm taking a break from moderating while I rethink once again why I'm spending my rare free time trying to help the community. Someone else can respond to the appeals for decorum. Enjoy.
Um there???

Was the post a result of your closing hellrazr thread YES. Did I mention YOU, NOPE.

It was more of a final straw, not just a whim I am on.
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
You're actually saying the first post here wasn't addressing the thread of h3llraz0r's I closed? Really?
He did not say that explicitly. You are the one on edge and jumped right into it.

I apologize. I'm the one who posted the link and possibily added fuel to fire. I'm very sorry about that.

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Originally Posted by penguinbait View Post
Did I offer a real solution to the problem NOPE, I offered a opportunity to discuss it.
no. you just came here, made people feel miserable and started a fight that simply cannot lead anywhere.... this is one of the threads that should be closed. IMO.

(you know, you keep stressing this free speech thing here. IMO, people here shouldn't think of rights they believe they have. in reality, they have only few and free speech is certainly not one of them. people should think about their responsibilities instead.)
 

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Originally Posted by w00t View Post
When the people who do get involved in those discussions end up feeling worn down and like "punching bags" (as a phrase I've seen used in this context in the past), then you have to start wondering whether perhaps there is a problem with the approach, and whether something fundamental needs to change.

Some food for thought.
Sure.

But "I'm going to close threads that are solely designed to attack the community."? Sounds like censoring based on content to me (and perhaps somebody is taking things personally)..

And no "free speech"?



I'm pretty sure that's not the kind of change the community wants...

methinks that Texrat has gotten a little battle weary from all the trolls and needs (and deserves) to take some R&R
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