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2010-10-03 , 22:22
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#41
I have not found the last release of Meego 1.1 vidéo. I have just found old version of Meego 1.1.
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Just for people who have forgotten:

release candidate means "this MIGHT be the candidate we are releasing as a final. We need some testing to make sure."

Anyone who uses it in another sense is flying in the face of what words mean.
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Originally Posted by pwm View Post
The term release candidate seems to have received a new meaning.

A release candidate is not an alpha or beta. It should contain the full functionality, be thought to be (almost) bug free and be subject to a code freeze where any found bugs are only fixed after decision on project meeting.
MeeGo has a fixed release schedule. What's ready when release time rolls around ships. This isn't a "when it's done" project.

Also, the main MeeGo project isn't focused on polished products for end users. MeeGo's target users are hardware companies who pick up whatever patch levels of MeeGo components they'd like to support, add what hardware drivers they need, layer their differentiating applications and UI tweaks on top, and sell that package to end users.

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I had some hope...that the N9 would available before christmas...
Nokia's first "MeeGo" device will be running Maemo 6 with a new name and a few bits added on for MeeGo compatibility. True MeeGo has time to firm up before Nokia uses it as the basis of the software for one of their phones.
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
Nokia's first "MeeGo" device will be running Maemo 6 with a new name and a few bits added on for MeeGo compatibility. True MeeGo has time to firm up before Nokia uses it as the basis of the software for one of their phones.
Do you know this? or are you speculating? If this is true, then the N9 (the first MeeGo device presumably) makes no sense at all. MeeGo makes no sense, and Maemo makes no sense. Makes no sense to me at least. This means that MeeGo is not one year, but two years into the future. With the E7 coming, this makes even less sense. Not even Nokia is so stupid they have to make a handfull of devices just to make it work on Linux.

Who, after the N900 episode, will be crazy enough to get a N9 if it is not even running MeeGo?
 

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There is no real difference between Maemo and MeeGo, besides the name and community politics/licensing.

Thus your complaint makes no sense.

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Do you know this? or are you speculating? If this is true, then the N9 (the first MeeGo device presumably) makes no sense at all. MeeGo makes no sense, and Maemo makes no sense. Makes no sense to me at least. This means that MeeGo is not one year, but two years into the future. With the E7 coming, this makes even less sense. Not even Nokia is so stupid they have to make a handfull of devices just to make it work on Linux.

Who, after the N900 episode, will be crazy enough to get a N9 if it is not even running MeeGo?
 

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Originally Posted by bsving View Post
Do you know this? or are you speculating?
oh come on... you could know if you only wanted to. This has been explained over and over again.
 
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Originally Posted by bsving View Post
Do you know this? or are you speculating?
Since the time of the Moblin-Maemo merger announcement, Nokia has been plainly stating that they are continuing to build Harmattan for their next Maemo MeeGo device. Rather than being fully MeeGo, they've said that Harmattan will be an "instance of MeeGo", a transitional release. For that reason, MeeGo-Harmattan (or MeeGo 1.0 N, if you prefer) still uses DEBs rather than RPMs, etc.

If this is true, then the N9 (the first MeeGo device presumably) makes no sense at all. MeeGo makes no sense, and Maemo makes no sense.
While following the convoluted naming scheme can be troublesome, it sounds as though you're throwing up your hands at more than that. What other frustrations do you see?

This means that MeeGo is not one year, but two years into the future. With the E7 coming, this makes even less sense.
How does the E7 enter into it?

Who, after the N900 episode, will be crazy enough to get a N9 if it is not even running MeeGo?
Oh, it will say MeeGo on the box, though there will be some sort of distinguishing mark attached. The latest trend by Nokia has been to use an "N", as in "MeeGo 1.0 N", though it remains to be seen if that will the be final, official choice.
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Christ So it is like this:

->OS2008 - Exclusively Internet tablet OS
Maemo5 - Exclusively N900
Maemo6 - Does not officially exist, but will be used on the next MeeGo device.
MeeGo - Will not be used on anything, but application development will be compatible with Symbian, and Maemo6 (that does not exist) and also with Maemo5.

MeeGo will be supportet on the N900, but not officially. Mostly because Nokia is developing Maemo6 (that will never exist) for the new MeeGo device.

One question still remains; will the new MeeGo device (N9 presumably) ever run MeeGo? Will anything ever run MeeGo.

Maybe I have been sleeping in class, but the facts still remains, MeeGo on the N900 is far far from being in any sort of usable state. But more importantly, why should it ever be in a usable state? When there is no difference between Maemo5, Maemo6 (that does not exist) and MeeGo (that never will exist) from an aplication developer point of view, wouldnt it be better to use those recources to develop Maemo further also for the N900, to keep the N900 alive so that lots of apps (compatible with Symbian, MeeGo and Maemo6) later on can be recompiled for those platforms?

I mean, come on, this is a mess! a terrible mess, an unbelievable mess. No sense of direction, no focus. This simply does not make sense - period.

Symbian, on the other hand, is finally on the right path. It started with S60.5 and continues slowly but steadily evolving into the future.

The E7 is Nokias new "comunicator", the new flagship. This can only mean that the N9 is something different, or that it will be very late.
 
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Originally Posted by bsving View Post
But more importantly, why should it ever be in a usable state?
MeeGo proper is never going to be finished, as it is supposed to serve as a basis from which forks are made for specific purposes.

When there is no difference between Maemo5, Maemo6 (that does not exist) and MeeGo (that never will exist) from an aplication developer point of view
An application developer only needs to think Qt. That's all.

I mean, come on, this is a mess! a terrible mess, an unbelievable mess. No sense of direction, no focus. This simply does not make sense - period.
No, I think you simply don't understand it and are panicking.

Symbian, on the other hand, is finally on the right path. It started with S60.5 and continues slowly but steadily evolving into the future.
Oddly enough, for Symbian application developers only need to think Qt as well. Which is good, because I never heard good things about Symbian development.
 

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Originally Posted by bsving View Post
I mean, come on, this is a mess! a terrible mess, an unbelievable mess. No sense of direction, no focus. This simply does not make sense - period.
Facepalm. How much more organized and transparent can it get? Note that this is only one of several useful pages at meego.com.

http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.1

Also, check out this link from the wiki here at maemo.org that has been up since the beginning of the year IIRC.

http://wiki.maemo.org/What_can_we_re...or_my_N900_.3F
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