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RIP Steve.
He had the vision to turn great computing devices into objects of desire which the ordinary man and woman in the street wanted, could use, and without crashing every 5 minutes.
Sure he had great designers, hardware and software designers working for him, but it was HIS ethos and vision which lead the teams bringing those products to market.
He had the vision to turn great computing devices into objects of desire which the ordinary man and woman in the street wanted, could use, and without crashing every 5 minutes.
Sure he had great designers, hardware and software designers working for him, but it was HIS ethos and vision which lead the teams bringing those products to market.
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2011-10-06
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I can't believe I see so many "omfg I am so sad" or "he was a visionary/revolutionary" posts.
I mean, sure, he changed some things, for example popularizing big smartphones and tablets, but he was not the first. He just knew how to ******** people with speeches such as: "Now you can hold the whole internet in your hands" (with the iPad).
And let us not forget that Apple stifled more innovation than they created. They sue companies left and right for breaking patents, and now they more or less claim that they owe exclusive rights to minimalistic tablets. They managed to get Samsung phones and tablets banned in some countries, and if they could get their way, they would get all their competitors banned worldwide. How is this innovating?
I mean, sure, he changed some things, for example popularizing big smartphones and tablets, but he was not the first. He just knew how to ******** people with speeches such as: "Now you can hold the whole internet in your hands" (with the iPad).
And let us not forget that Apple stifled more innovation than they created. They sue companies left and right for breaking patents, and now they more or less claim that they owe exclusive rights to minimalistic tablets. They managed to get Samsung phones and tablets banned in some countries, and if they could get their way, they would get all their competitors banned worldwide. How is this innovating?
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2011-10-06
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Originally Posted by Radu
This is pretty much what I'm saying.
I can't believe I see so many "omfg I am so sad" or "he was a visionary/revolutionary" posts.
I mean, sure, he changed some things, for example popularizing big smartphones and tablets, but he was not the first. He just knew how to ******** people with speeches such as: "Now you can hold the whole internet in your hands" (with the iPad).
And let us not forget that Apple stifled more innovation than they created. They sue companies left and right for breaking patents, and now they more or less claim that they owe exclusive rights to minimalistic tablets. They managed to get Samsung phones and tablets banned in some countries, and if they could get their way, they would get all their competitors banned worldwide. How is this innovating?
I'll give him this much credit: He was GREAT for competition and a GENERALLY respectful adversary in business. He did, at least, give computing the kind of public image it needed--simple, clean and functional. An uncomplicated image.
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2011-10-06
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Originally Posted by Radu
It is innovating business.
How is this innovating?
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Originally Posted by frostbyte
See, that I could buy. But every time I hear news reporters and interviews, they keep speaking of him as a visionary in the same breath as inventions and innovations and invoking the names of people such as Thomas Edison (which is ironic given he's best known for "inventing the light bulb" but it's been shown that he wasn't the first to invent it... but the first to patent it--but that's the image you're supposed to see).
It is innovating business.
He was an excellent business person and he knew that the general public needed a good artsy looking thing if they were to accept computers and electronics into their daily lives the way most tech saavy people already do. For that, he was indeed a business man and a great entrepreneur... but by no means an inventor or originator.
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He innovated what his company was doing to a point that he made Apple the most valuable in the world. He achieved a level of success that is tangible and measurable.
I can understand why people don't get people feeling sad etc...but from an achievements standpoint he measurably achieved and executed on his vision to the very top and for this he undoubtedly deserves respect. I dream of being able to be as good at my job as he was at his.
I don't know much about his personal life but I'm guessing he was probably quite happy with that too or at least strove to make himself as happy as he could be.
I can understand why people don't get people feeling sad etc...but from an achievements standpoint he measurably achieved and executed on his vision to the very top and for this he undoubtedly deserves respect. I dream of being able to be as good at my job as he was at his.
I don't know much about his personal life but I'm guessing he was probably quite happy with that too or at least strove to make himself as happy as he could be.
Originally Posted by Radu
I can't believe I see so many "omfg I am so sad" or "he was a visionary/revolutionary" posts.
I mean, sure, he changed some things, for example popularizing big smartphones and tablets, but he was not the first. He just knew how to ******** people with speeches such as: "Now you can hold the whole internet in your hands" (with the iPad).
And let us not forget that Apple stifled more innovation than they created. They sue companies left and right for breaking patents, and now they more or less claim that they owe exclusive rights to minimalistic tablets. They managed to get Samsung phones and tablets banned in some countries, and if they could get their way, they would get all their competitors banned worldwide. How is this innovating?
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Oh, no doubt, he was an excellent business man, probably the best in the world. He started Apple from 0, and look where it is now.
But I don't respect him (or Apple) because they did a lot of unethical things to get where they are now.
But I don't respect him (or Apple) because they did a lot of unethical things to get where they are now.
"Jobs is the spiritual leader of our time," wrote @Xiongpeiyun on Sina Weibo. "I like Steve Jobs more than I like Apple. It's a huge loss for the whole world. But his life was complete because he had been looking for and found what he loved. I haven't committed whole heartedly to my life like Jobs had been doing. So, next to him, I feel more ashamed than being sad."
This is how I feel, that as a business owner you can't really learn much more about how to dream big and go big and be happy about it than from Steve jobs. RIP Mr Jobs.