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zlatokosi is offline zlatokosi
2011-10-23 , 22:24
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#41
Originally Posted by jalyst View Post
Besides....
Why on earth would one want to transmit audio via FMTX, when they'd have a way better experience via BT2.1/Aux-in?
Anyone with a decent head-unit in their car, or a recent model car, has that covered.
Simply because one can use it anywhere and everywhere there is an ordinary radio player, be it in your new Ferrari or in a random village in sub-Saharan Africa. You'd be amazed at how many times I used it traveling through Ecuador, on radios way older than me (and I'm not that young anymore)
 

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2011-10-23 , 22:31
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#42
I was wondering how the multi-tasking compares on the n9 and the n900. For example, on the n900, if I go to youtube and select some music to listen to, I can then do a ctrl-back arrow which puts that process in the background. I can then start another process like, say, xterm and edit a file while listening to the music from youtube. Can you do the same on the n9? That is, if you use youtube and then swipe back to the apps tray, do you still hear the music playing or does it "freeze" the app? Then to restart you swipe back to the open apps and select it. This latter case would be more or less what android does. Anyways, if the n9 multi-tasks like n900 that would be nice.
 
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#43
Originally Posted by zlatokosi View Post
Simply because one can use it anywhere and everywhere there is an ordinary radio player, be it in your new Ferrari or in a random village in sub-Saharan Africa. You'd be amazed at how many times I used it traveling through Ecuador, on radios way older than me (and I'm not that young anymore)
That's a fair enough point May be an option soon enough for the N9 too.
FMRX/RDS is already mostly implemented, tis just awaiting a pretty GUI.
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2011-10-23 , 22:37
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#44
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I was wondering how the multi-tasking compares on the n9 and the n900. For example, on the n900, if I go to youtube and select some music to listen to, I can then do a ctrl-back arrow which puts that process in the background. I can then start another process like, say, xterm and edit a file while listening to the music from youtube. Can you do the same on the n9? That is, if you use youtube and then swipe back to the apps tray, do you still hear the music playing or does it "freeze" the app? Then to restart you swipe back to the open apps and select it. This latter case would be more or less what android does. Anyways, if the n9 multi-tasks like n900 that would be nice.
This is the better thread to ask, more on topic
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=78598&page=52
I "think" (but I could be wrong) that the default browser would pause.
Not sure about Fennec though, possibly not.
But that's not the case for all apps...
There's def. stuff that still behaves the same way as Fremantle.
 

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#45
Originally Posted by mscion View Post
I was wondering how the multi-tasking compares on the n9 and the n900. For example, on the n900, if I go to youtube and select some music to listen to, I can then do a ctrl-back arrow which puts that process in the background. I can then start another process like, say, xterm and edit a file while listening to the music from youtube. Can you do the same on the n9? That is, if you use youtube and then swipe back to the apps tray, do you still hear the music playing or does it "freeze" the app? Then to restart you swipe back to the open apps and select it. This latter case would be more or less what android does. Anyways, if the n9 multi-tasks like n900 that would be nice.
On the N9, YouTube videos are launched in an external video player, which will pause when minimized. However, the N9 is capable of multitasking in the same way as the N900. It is up to developers to decide how their applications behave when minimized. I choose to let users decide, Nokia chooses to decide for you.
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#46
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On the N9, YouTube videos are launched in an external video player, which will pause when minimized. However, the N9 is capable of multitasking in the same way as the N900. It is up to developers to decide how their applications behave when minimized. I choose to let users decide, Nokia chooses to decide for you.
Oops! Did I say YouTube? I meant, when I use cutetube on the n900...
Anyways, to be clear, for your n9 cutetube version, do you give the option for continued playing in background after the swipe to the open apps screen? If so, kudos to you!
 

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May be quite off-topic, but I haven't started this - I don't get why people keep mocking up other people for using equalizers. Equalizers are - as name suggest - designed to adjust music to *Your* personal liking. Talking about "sounds better, sounds worse" is childish. In post about listening in car, it was clearly stated "to my liking". I'm not going to elaborate on personal frequency hearing ranges etc - hydrogen-audio is for ones interested in this - and to be honest, I also don't use equalizers (for power-saving purposes, and because instead, I use audio equipment that got tone of sounds that I like), but it's obvious that in many situations, equalizer is helpful.

BTW, I also can't count situations, where FM TX was only possible /convenient way streaming sound. Once, there was a funny situation in high-tech environment - during meeting where me and a couple of people wanted to watch a movie from notebook and HDMI (sadly, no miniHDMI output, on "shiny new toys" also ), but for unknown reasons, big, hi-tech flat TV refused to accept HDMI sound, and we haven't got analog cables. solution? Open same video on N900, and transfer it sounds via FMTX and Hi-Fi system, synced with video output from notebook.

Yea, we're going off-topic here, but I just like to point out that "laughing" at other people using tools they have available is immature, childish, and totally non-meritocratic. And definitely, it's not a way to counter-argument that N900 have it, and N9 doesn't. Well, at least "they" got aegis to play with, which makes N9 as hard hackable as Your average android phone...

Ps.

If we're talking about "special" hardware, II can't count situations, where I blessed IR transmitter, together with TvBgone! Many, many "waiting lounges" with TV and some stupid program turned on for "entertainment", without possibility to turn it off - at least, until I pressed little button on my N900.
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#48
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Anyways, to be clear, for your n9 cutetube version, do you give the option for continued playing in background after the swipe to the open apps screen? If so, kudos to you!
Yes. There are two settings:

1. Play in background (on/off, default is on). If on, playback will continue whilst you browse other videos etc, otherwise it will pause when you exit the playback screen.

2. Pause when minimized (on/off, default is on). If on, playback will be paused when the application is minimized, otherwise it will continue to play. I set the default to 'on' in order to ensure that it passed Nokia Store QA. I was concerned that it might be rejected for using too many CPU cycles whilst minimized.
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2011-10-23 , 23:20
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#49
Originally Posted by marxian View Post
On the N9, YouTube videos are launched in an external video player, which will pause when minimized. However, the N9 is capable of multitasking in the same way as the N900. It is up to developers to decide how their applications behave when minimized. I choose to let users decide, Nokia chooses to decide for you.
My bad, I thought the user was asking about listening to music on YouTube.
Which I guess would still need the dedicated player? Dunno...
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2011-10-23 , 23:29
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#50
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And definitely, it's not a way to counter-argument that N900 have it, and N9 doesn't.
Well, at least "they" got aegis to play with, which makes N9 as hard hackable as Your average android phone...
I'm not sure if this is directed at me...
If I did cause offense to anyone with my LOL I do apologize.
I just like the "cut of Marxian's jib" sometimes.

I certainly did explain that TX is still a possibility for the N9.
Not that it's "not coming", as you describe it.

Re AEGIS, perhaps you're not aware?
http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=4575&page=8
Still some open questions, but light-years further than where we were.
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