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	qwazix	2012-05-30 , 06:18
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Unfortunately this will have to wait until I get my N900 back, but I hope I can check out QtonPi today.

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	qwazix	2012-05-31 , 14:48
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I just booted QtonPi image. Everything seems ok but my QtCreator installation is probably too old for Qt5, because I get a ton of "skipping incompatible" errors.

UPDATE: After updating qtcreator and

sudo apt-get install libmpc2:i386

on my Precice x64, hello compiles but fails to run because tar is not installed on the pi.

I was expecting a full develop-on-device image with X and QtCreator and one click to run hello world, but I understand this is not the case.
My only proposal taking into consideration the nature of the image as a target only is that it should be a less-step procedure for installation.

For example tar should be installed by default on the pi, and networking should be already enabled. I will play a bit with it and report back.

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	qgil	2012-05-31 , 17:23
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Hi, thank you for testing!

I asked my colleague Rajiv about your points and here is his answer. Note that you can find the QtonPi devs and contributors at the [QtonPi] mailing list, where questions get answered pretty fast. Thanks!

Originally Posted by qwazix

I just booted QtonPi image. Everything seems ok but my QtCreator installation is probably too old for Qt5, because I get a ton of "skipping incompatible" errors.

UPDATE: After updating qtcreator and

sudo apt-get install libmpc2:i386

on my Precice x64, hello compiles but fails to run because tar is not installed on the pi.

Known issue. See,

https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTONPI-11

We'll fix it in QtonPi 0.3

I was expecting a full develop-on-device image with X and QtCreator and one click to run hello world, but I understand this is not the case.
My only proposal taking into consideration the nature of the image as a target only is that it should be a less-step procedure for installation.

Yes, that's the end goal. Hopefully once we open up the build tools and some of the packages, it'll be much easier to accept contributions and we can get there before Qt5 launch.

For example tar should be installed by default on the pi, and networking should be already enabled. I will play a bit with it and report back.

We don't need tar to be on the device to run the "hello world" program, as we scp the files over. There are two ways of getting tar on the image.

1. Do a "sudo yum install tar" on the device (or)
2. Build yourself a custom sysroot/device image as documented here,

http://qt-project.org/wiki/Contribut...b6a2730e3ffdae

(Btw, the wiki migration has messed up a few things. I'll also take
a look at it)

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	qwazix	2012-05-31 , 20:05
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Thank you very much for the detailed reply. It seems that QtCreator scp's the files tarred and tries to untar on the device. After I installed tar everything worked nicely. (Except my MS mouse that malfunctioned and I thought it would fry my Rpi) The question here is does it use X or wayland to display the graphics? Or some other non-standard method (android style)?

Anyway I liked the whole idea very much.

Another thing, is that there is an entry in the debian rpi image sources.list that says something about QtonPi. Does that include qtcreator or only qt binaries?

Sorry for the waterfall of questions, I can ask them over at the mailing list if that is better.

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	qgil	2012-05-31 , 20:14
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Originally Posted by qwazix

Thank you very much for the detailed reply. It seems that QtCreator scp's the files tarred and tries to untar on the device. After I installed tar everything worked nicely. (Except my MS mouse that malfunctioned and I thought it would fry my Rpi) The question here is does it use X or wayland to display the graphics? Or some other non-standard method (android style)?

Currently eglfs, but the QtonPi developers are trying to get Wayland instead.

Anyway I liked the whole idea very much.

Another thing, is that there is an entry in the debian rpi image sources.list that says something about QtonPi. Does that include qtcreator or only qt binaries?

Huh? The Debian image also contains Qt 5 modules, contributed by the same QtonPi developers and coming from the same place. You know, these guys are in a mission to get Qt 5 in any stack running cool hardware with good graphics performance.

Sorry for the waterfall of questions, I can ask them over at the mailing list if that is better.

Thank you for your interest! I helped twice here, if you keep liking QtonPi you are welcome meeting the devs directly there.

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	qwazix	2012-05-31 , 20:25
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Originally Posted by qgil

Huh? The Debian image also contains Qt 5 modules, contributed by the same QtonPi developers and coming from the same place. You know, these guys are in a mission to get Qt 5 in any stack running cool hardware with good graphics performance.

Yeah, I didn't phrase the question in legible english as I see now... The question is whether I can install QtCreator on the debian pi image, but I guess I can try that out tomorrow I will get my hands again on the Pi (don't have hdmi screen at home)

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	Estel	2012-05-31 , 23:45
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@qwazix
As a mean of preparation before having Your N900 back, You can try to use advices from HDMI on N900 thread, to "stream" any linuxbox to HDMI screen with Pi as middleman. It should make preparing same setup for N900 (as whole) and EasyDebian much faster, due to experience gained.

/Estel

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	qwazix	2012-06-02 , 09:54
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The ignorant engadget editor claims that "finding compatible desktop apps for the Linux desktop is an exercise in futility". Last time I checked, debian had 29000 packages...

Why do they let them publish such crap?