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2014-05-28 , 16:42
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Originally Posted by Morpog View Post
Wherever fk_lx posts his opinions about this case, most of the people tend to disagree with most of his points. Still he pushes it agressively everywhere. If he had that behavior towards thp in the beginning, then I can understand why thp started to ignore him.

And as a reminder to everyone, thp started to ignore fk_lx before he joined Jolla. So this clearly IS a private conflict which fk_lx now brought to Jolla.
Nope, thp brought it to Jolla (because it seems having conflict only on personal level wasn't enough for him). And regarding your previous paragraph. Jolla is aggresively fighting with facts (we've seen that on the mailing list). Rest of the paragraph is nothing more than cheap insinuation.
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2014-05-28 , 16:42
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#42
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Well, we shall see how it all ends. According to Finish law company discriminating someone for personal reasons is a crime (read my post about that). Regarding the rest of your post the question "why?" is answered at the end of FAQ
well, If you serious looking for work in that area. The 2020 initiative is the way to go if you looking to regulate stuff in EU. Get a job in Brussels, great work and well paid with low tax. I'm working there from time to time. GL with what ever you choose to do. I don't see why you should pursue this issue anymore, but I respect your right to do it.

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2014-05-28 , 16:54
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haha check this picture by the way! two lobsters with weapons, hilarious!

 

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2014-05-28 , 16:56
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haha check this picture by the way! two lobsters with weapons, hilarious!

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...ster_fight.png

Man, you are on fire today. Troll hard, work hard...enjoy life with lots of lobsters.

I can't figure out... (what lobster) who is fk_lx and who is jolla?
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2014-05-28 , 17:13
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Its my personal opinion that if anything pushes you to the point of having to question your sanity or having to visit mental health specialists for your own well-being it isn't worth your attention.

The F/OSS community is about having fun but some people take it too seriously and personally. fk_lx, my advice to you would be to take some downtime and seriously let go of this whole mess. You may be right or wrong I don't know as even after reading every single thread by you on the mailing list I can't figure how the original dispute between you and thp came about. Actions after that by both you and thp or other sailors can't be really put into context with the original dispute not in the public knowledge.

You may feel that Jolla are not unlike etc but that doesn't justify you spending disproportionate amounts of time and energy on trying to show them the light.

Kindly stop F5'ing this page for posts to reply to and please carry on leading your life instead of becoming too attached to a for-profit corporation.
 

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2014-05-28 , 17:32
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Originally Posted by thedead1440 View Post
Its my personal opinion that if anything pushes you to the point of having to question your sanity or having to visit mental health specialists for your own well-being it isn't worth your attention.

The F/OSS community is about having fun but some people take it too seriously and personally. fk_lx, my advice to you would be to take some downtime and seriously let go of this whole mess. You may be right or wrong I don't know as even after reading every single thread by you on the mailing list I can't figure how the original dispute between you and thp came about. Actions after that by both you and thp or other sailors can't be really put into context with the original dispute not in the public knowledge.

You may feel that Jolla are not unlike etc but that doesn't justify you spending disproportionate amounts of time and energy on trying to show them the light.

Kindly stop F5'ing this page for posts to reply to and please carry on leading your life instead of becoming too attached to a for-profit corporation.


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Originally Posted by thedead1440 View Post
Its my personal opinion that if anything pushes you to the point of having to question your sanity or having to visit mental health specialists for your own well-being it isn't worth your attention.

The F/OSS community is about having fun but some people take it too seriously and personally. fk_lx, my advice to you would be to take some downtime and seriously let go of this whole mess. You may be right or wrong I don't know as even after reading every single thread by you on the mailing list I can't figure how the original dispute between you and thp came about. Actions after that by both you and thp or other sailors can't be really put into context with the original dispute not in the public knowledge.

You may feel that Jolla are not unlike etc but that doesn't justify you spending disproportionate amounts of time and energy on trying to show them the light.

Kindly stop F5'ing this page for posts to reply to and please carry on leading your life instead of becoming too attached to a for-profit corporation.
Thanks for the care I appreciate that. I feel very good in contrast how I felt few months ago. I'm not longer controlled nor manipulated by Carsten Munk and that was biggest relief. The methods he used was manipulation by guilt trip, traumatic one-trial learning and shaming.

What is it? From Wikipedia:

Traumatic one-trial learning: using verbal abuse, explosive anger, or other intimidating behavior to establish dominance or superiority; even one incident of such behavior can condition or train victims to avoid upsetting, confronting or contradicting the manipulator.

Guilt trip: A special kind of intimidation tactic. A manipulator suggests to the conscientious victim that he or she does not care enough, is too selfish or has it easy. This usually results in the victim feeling bad, keeping them in a self-doubting, anxious and submissive position.

Shaming: Manipulator uses sarcasm and put-downs to increase fear and self-doubt in the victim. Manipulators use this tactic to make others feel unworthy and therefore defer to them. Shaming tactics can be very subtle such as a fierce look or glance, unpleasant tone of voice, rhetorical comments, subtle sarcasm. Manipulators can make one feel ashamed for even daring to challenge them. It is an effective way to foster a sense of inadequacy in the victim.

Manipulators can have various possible motivations, including but not limited to:
  • the need to advance their own purposes and personal gain at virtually any cost to others
  • a strong need to attain feelings of power and superiority in relationships with others
  • a want and need to feel in control (aka. control freak)
  • a desire to gain a feeling of power over others in order to raise their perception of self-esteem
  • boredom, or growing tired of his/her surroundings, seeing it as a game more than hurting others

As far as bold are concerned I am sure that it is the case. I think the 2nd and 4th are also highly probable. Sad, but true and I feel pity that Carsten is like that. Thankfully, at least for around a month it's over when I left him (didn't want to have such "friend").
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2014-05-28 , 17:51
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Originally Posted by fk_lx View Post
  • the need to advance their own purposes and personal gain at virtually any cost to others
  • a strong need to attain feelings of power and superiority in relationships with others
  • a want and need to feel in control (aka. control freak)
  • a desire to gain a feeling of power over others in order to raise their perception of self-esteem
  • boredom, or growing tired of his/her surroundings, seeing it as a game more than hurting others
do you recognize yourself in any of these things?
 

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2014-05-28 , 17:53
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Originally Posted by dirkvl View Post
do you recognize yourself in any of these things?
How about you?
 
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2014-05-28 , 18:05
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Originally Posted by fk_lx View Post
How about you?
i asked first!

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