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2010-05-28
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Originally Posted by SD.
A) It seemed to work in the Demo
The processor puts the N900 out of the hardware requirements spec posted on April 22:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/devices/...n_faq.html#q07
They are saying it needs a 800mhz+ Cortex A8 not 600mhz+.
Nokia and Palm have no devices like that released or announced.
That could be why Adobe is saying "Flash Player 10.1 will be available on Android Market by mid-2010." and "We expect Flash Player 10.1 to support other mobile platforms in the second half of 2010."
So is Adobe actually holding them back from releasing?
It could harm their image if Flash runs too slow wouldn't it?
I don't see what the big deal is though especially with FP9 running on the N900 already, they should upgrade it. FP10.1 wouldn't be slower than FP9, it would obviously be faster. But maybe Adobe is trying to play the newer-software-version-numbers-needs-newer-hardware card.
B) No android device currently (short maybe the N-One) have those kinds of specs. Yet, I do believe many older device are being told they are going to be able to get 2.2 (anyone confirm?). But, the N-one is a 1Ghz snapdragon, with no dedicated GPU - so whether it's any faster is in question..
C) 800mhz doesn't seem to be outside the realm of possibility for the N900 if the O/C thread is to be believed.
But, I suppose it's theoretically possible that Adobe decided after their demo that the N900 processor just couldn't provide the proper "user" experience on all the different websites that use 10.1. While some may work, others may be too slow, etc. But - and again I need confirmation and sources - but I thought the Harmattan device coming 2010 had pretty much identical hardware to the N900, just with capacitive touchscreen over resistive. I'm fairly certain it's a Cortex A8, but I'm not sure of the speed.. I coulda swore there was a wiki page or a post somewhere outlining it's specs but I'm failing to find it quickly.
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, and thanks! Good post, and good to see you again.
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2010-05-28
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint
Yea good point it worked in the demo, so if it does come to the Motorola Droid that's even more ammo.
A) It seemed to work in the Demo
B) No android device currently (short maybe the N-One) have those kinds of specs. Yet, I do believe many older device are being told they are going to be able to get 2.2 (anyone confirm?). But, the N-one is a 1Ghz snapdragon, with no dedicated GPU - so whether it's any faster is in question..
C) 800mhz doesn't seem to be outside the realm of possibility for the N900 if the O/C thread is to be believed.
But, I suppose it's theoretically possible that Adobe decided after their demo that the N900 processor just couldn't provide the proper "user" experience on all the different websites that use 10.1. While some may work, others may be too slow, etc. But - and again I need confirmation and sources - but I thought the Harmattan device coming 2010 had pretty much identical hardware to the N900, just with capacitive touchscreen over resistive. I'm fairly certain it's a Cortex A8, but I'm not sure of the speed.. I coulda swore there was a wiki page or a post somewhere outlining it's specs but I'm failing to find it quickly.
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It's good to be back YoDude
The N1, Droid Incredible, EVO 4G and Samsung Galaxy S all have 1ghz processors, and the Motorola Shadow/Mirage/Droid2 is rumored to have one too.
OCing isn't considered at all by Adobe or Nokia... That Harmattan device could come out with a 1ghz+ 45nm chip. I read a comparison the other day that 45nm 1ghz Samsung Hummingbird chip in the Galaxy S is better than the Snapdragon. Texas Instruments and Qualcomm are going to release something new at that size later this year(they use 65nm chips right now).
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2010-05-28
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Originally Posted by SD.
AFAIK: There's no way to "hide" an app in the Android Market from some devices and not others. So if they release it to the market, it'll be installable by any Android device that uses the new Market. (Had to specify new, as there is some differences I guess in apps in the "new" market to the "old" market of the G1/Cliq.. at least so says my friend with a CLIQ). However, this comes with the caveat that: Just because it's installable, doesn't mean it'll work. So we'll have to see if it works on the Droid.
Yea good point it worked in the demo, so if it does come to the Motorola Droid that's even more ammo.
The N1, Droid Incredible, EVO 4G and Samsung Galaxy S all have 1ghz processors, and the Motorola Shadow/Mirage/Droid2 is rumored to have one too.
OCing isn't considered at all by Adobe or Nokia... That Harmattan device could come out with a 1ghz+ 45nm chip. I read a comparison the other day that 45nm 1ghz Samsung Hummingbird chip in the Galaxy S is better than the Snapdragon. Texas Instruments and Qualcomm are going to release something new at that size later this year(they use 65nm chips right now).
So the Harmattan device will use something that was already on the market, likely I'm thinking sometime last year. But yes it could be a 800mhz+ Cortex A8 vice the 600 we have now. I thought, as I said, this was specified somewhere but I can't find it. I must be tired today.
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2010-05-28
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It just got an idea from updating my Ubuntus Flash to 10.1 beta. Since the Flash is just an .so-file in .Mozilla/plugins, could it be possible that some Android-owner would give us their libflashplayer.so (this would then be for ARM-devices) and we could use it.
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2010-05-28
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Originally Posted by MiK546
it is worth trying but I wouldn't count on that working...
It just got an idea from updating my Ubuntus Flash to 10.1 beta. Since the Flash is just an .so-file in .Mozilla/plugins, could it be possible that some Android-owner would give us their libflashplayer.so (this would then be for ARM-devices) and we could use it.
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2010-05-28
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Originally Posted by MiK546
I got leacked froyo and didn't file that file there. tried that =(
It just got an idea from updating my Ubuntus Flash to 10.1 beta. Since the Flash is just an .so-file in .Mozilla/plugins, could it be possible that some Android-owner would give us their libflashplayer.so (this would then be for ARM-devices) and we could use it.
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2010-05-28
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The .so file is specific to Firefox, I believe.
Thus, android would have to use Firefox, to get an ARM port of that .so file. They don't. Android has it's own browser, and flash has been written specifically for that.
So as ZogG said.. I don't see that working.
Now, something like that could likely work if Flash 10.1 reaches Harmattan or MeeGo.
Thus, android would have to use Firefox, to get an ARM port of that .so file. They don't. Android has it's own browser, and flash has been written specifically for that.
So as ZogG said.. I don't see that working.
Now, something like that could likely work if Flash 10.1 reaches Harmattan or MeeGo.
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2010-05-28
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What if the N900 "Flash 10.1" demo last year was really just flash 9.4 demo while talking about flash 10.1? The TBS.com website demoed works just the same on our N900 today...
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2010-05-28
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Why Why Why
does everyone want Flash 10 ???????????
The N900 is an "open platform"
why do we want bloated, buggy closed proprietary code ??
we should keep the N900 totally open and banish this rubbish and get Nokia to open up its proprietary code.
if we add any more closed code we may as well just go and buy iphones.
but wait, didnt apple banish flash as its too buggy and closed ?
does everyone want Flash 10 ???????????
The N900 is an "open platform"
why do we want bloated, buggy closed proprietary code ??
we should keep the N900 totally open and banish this rubbish and get Nokia to open up its proprietary code.
if we add any more closed code we may as well just go and buy iphones.
but wait, didnt apple banish flash as its too buggy and closed ?
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