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timoph	2011-08-15 , 19:43
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Originally Posted by gerbick

Has the meetings with Nokia indicated how long we have for this forum as well as how long until a solution going forward will take to be created?

IIRC it was stated somewhere that the bills are going to be paid until end of 2012. So that gives us some time to figure out how to proceed. That in mind, IMO it's not the council's task to figure out the solution, It's a task for the whole community.

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SD69	2011-08-15 , 20:33
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Originally Posted by Estel

Ok, but considering theoretical option of "dying" is little counter-effective for me. Actually, we don't need to do anything, if we want to die, it just happen, when You stop drinking/eating etc (or paying bills for hosting server, in this case). you know what I mean - if someone things maemo.org is obsolete, and don't feel like contributing anymore, it's ok - they don't have to. But I don't think why other people, still interested in project, should discuss this as an option.

Well yes, I see your point, but there are people who think maemo is dead and that the winding down of maemo.org when Nokia funding ends should be one of the options presented to the community. I don't personally agree with that position at this time, but I think the fair thing to do is to allow it to be presented and voted on.

Plus, I do think that there is a down side to doing nothing and leaving maemo.org unorganized so that it decays with the passage of time. It's not a binary decision for most people and they just tend to gradually spend less time here. Then we have a moderator who doesn't moderate, a project without a maintainer, etc., a silent community or administrative leader. It will hurt the community psyche.

Originally Posted by Estel

As for directly asking about Nokia repos - you've answered first half of my question, Thank You for that. But, what about second part of my question - "can someone (and if yes, when) ask *directly* about it"?

It's a good question, but I don't know when it might be asked just because there is so much else going on right now.

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	misterc	2011-08-15 , 20:36
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Originally Posted by Texrat

I think he was trying to get a reaction out of you

and what sort of reaction would that be? a better reaction?

Originally Posted by Texrat

. So what does that have to do with anything I posted?
I truly cannot follow your train of thought.

i'm just trying to understand whether you would happen to consider daperl's posts a contribution to a better thread?

	Texrat	2011-08-15 , 21:01
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Originally Posted by misterc

and what sort of reaction would that be? a better reaction?

i'm just trying to understand whether you would happen to consider daperl's posts a contribution to a better thread?

I'm not second-guessing daperl further. He can answer for himself (herself?).

And no of course I don't consider his post to be "a contribution to a better thread". Same goes for most of the posts here lately IMO. What an odd question though.

I think it really is time for an "ask the moderators" thread though. Anything to get THIS one back on topic and off the petty stuff.

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	misterc	2011-08-15 , 21:43
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Originally Posted by Texrat

I'm not second-guessing daperl further. He can answer for himself (herself?).

me starts popping the corn ¦-)

Originally Posted by Texrat

And no of course I don't consider his post to be "a contribution to a better thread". Same goes for most of the posts here lately IMO.

maybe you are mixing up trying openly to start a fight and being off topic?
not quite the same "bad thread" methinks.

Originally Posted by Texrat

What an odd question though.

I think it really is time for an "ask the moderators" thread though. Anything to get THIS one back on topic and off the petty stuff.

petty stuff?
your pet (is it?) tries to start a flame war & it is... petty stuff!
abill_uk doesn't get banned and both the council and the moderators are... cutting too much slack.

maybe you have a case figure of an

Originally Posted by Texrat

[...]obvious sociopath[...]

here, for once.
but of course, if it is your pet...

Last edited by misterc; 2011-08-15 at 21:50. Reason: quoted "obvious sociopath"

	Texrat	2011-08-15 , 21:49
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Originally Posted by misterc

but of course, if it is your pet...

I suggest you scroll back and read my lengthy post about moderation.

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	misterc	2011-08-15 , 21:51
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Originally Posted by Texrat

I suggest you scroll back and read my lengthy post about moderation.

the one i took the quote from?
afraid i read it, thank you.

	Texrat	2011-08-15 , 22:00
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Originally Posted by misterc

the one i took the quote from?
afraid i read it, thank you.

We seem to be having some sort of communications impasse, and I don't know the way around it. If you wish to continue via email, you have my address... but I feel the axle-wrapping has gone on long enough here. No reason everyone else should have to wade through our exchange.

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	misterc	2011-08-15 , 22:13
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Originally Posted by Texrat

We seem to be having some sort of communications impasse, and I don't know the way around it. If you wish to continue via email, you have my address... but I feel the axle-wrapping has gone on long enough here. No reason everyone else should have to wade through our exchange.

i'm afraid it isn't quite that simple...
why don't you ask yourself sincerly how it comes that one of the 1st developer to have received a N950, certainly not based on any favouritism, i'm the 1st to concede, is making that kind of posts in the 1st place?

i understand that whipping it under the carpet may seem the decent thing to do, but maybe the community if not the council should pounder this?

EDIT: and maybe the moderators (@ large) & Reggie too?

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	Texrat	2011-08-15 , 22:24
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Originally Posted by misterc

i'm afraid it isn't quite that simple...

Actually it IS that simple: let's get this thread back on topic or I change my mind about heavy-handed moderation.

Call it what you like, but my patience is wearing thin. And of course anyone disagreeing with my decisions is as free to report me as they are anyone else.

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