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Hey, I can't be the only one fed up with opaque title bars... Any of the theme gurus on here know right off if transparent titlebar is possible? If so, I can see a theme with fully transparent titlebar, as well as statusbar, and floating white iconify/close buttons.
 
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Yes, it's possible, I've tried it. You have to set the "shaped" option in theme.xml. However, it seems that each pixel can only have a transparency of 0% or 100%, no in between, semi-transparency. However...I dunno if matchbox is handling this incorrectly or what, but when you maximize any window to fullscreen, the transparency is applied to the contents of the window where the titlebar *would be* on the screen. So, it works, just not good enough if you want to use fullscreen apps. Also, the transparency won't disappear immediately when you change themes, you have to switch themes a couple of times.

If you want to try it out, edit a theme's titlebar to have some fully transparent parts. Then go to your theme.xml file and change
Code:
<frame id="main" height="60" >
to
Code:
<frame id="main" height="60" options="shaped">

Now that I think about it, it may be possible to change only individual layers of the titlebar frame instead of the entire frame. This might get rid of the errors. I'm going to try that out later.

Gaah, I uploaded just the titlebar but it was converted to jpg. Bah.

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Originally Posted by Underscore View Post
Yes, it's possible, I've tried it. You have to set the "shaped" option in theme.xml. However, it seems that each pixel can only have a transparency of 0% or 100%, no in between, semi-transparency.
Not good, but not a problem for what I want.
However...I dunno if matchbox is handling this incorrectly or what, but when you maximize any window to fullscreen, the transparency is applied to the contents of the window where the titlebar *would be* on the screen. So, it works, just not good enough if you want to use fullscreen apps.
GAAAAaaahahhhkkkkkk!!!
Also, the transparency won't disappear immediately when you change themes, you have to switch themes a couple of times.

If you want to try it out, edit a theme's titlebar to have some fully transparent parts. Then go to your theme.xml file and change
Code:
<frame id="main" height="60" >
to
Code:
<frame id="main" height="60" options="shaped">

Now that I think about it, it may be possible to change only individual layers of the titlebar frame instead of the entire frame. This might get rid of the errors. I'm going to try that out later.
Thanks so much! I hope that can work. It would help brush a lot of the imperfections of rotation away. That and a 480x480 tilable wallpaper, and things could look really sweet. (Even with an 800x800, on rotation, you get a 480x800 or 800x480 segment tiled. But I think 480x480 will work...)
 
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Well, if you're wanting it for rotation specifically, it wouldnt be hard to make a quick theme just for rotation; it's only the titlebar image that needs to be tweaked. Unfortunately, you'd have to switch themes every time you rotated D:
 
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Precisely, I said works with rotation, not with portrait; I swap a lot.
 
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I tried some different stuff, and it didn't work unfortunately. I'm going to have to reflash again but I was actually half-expecting it. Hmmm...it looks like a bug will have to be filed to support this. I'll try and make a theme sometime this weekend that looks halfway decent rotated.
 

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qwerty12, you've managed to make your desktop almost entirely unrecognizable to me! All these little desktop icons, like for control panels, and those little different-colored monitor icons, trash, looking like we have a purgatory for trash which I was unaware of, totally unrecognizable icons in the lower left, ...

ah-hah! looking up smplayer, which was also new to me, I think I see ... lots of KDE stuff going on here, eh? Man, how can we relate anymore, we aren't even using the same operating system!
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Man, how can we relate anymore, we aren't even using the same operating system!
Sure it is, still linux. Different windowing system. Funny how linux can do that.......
 
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