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Originally Posted by giorgosmit
802.11a isn't an old format, it's still actively improved via the 802.11n standard, & has become more popular because of the overcrowded/noisy 2.4Ghz spectrum.
Jalyst, honest question though-does it really matter? 802.11a is a pretty old and unpopular format, and most wi-fi modems/routers support b/g/n or are bimodal, so the probability of finding an exclusively 802.11a network is pretty slim.
Many folk already use dual-band routers on their LAN, often using their 2.4Ghz network for regular traffic, and leaving 5Ghz for media or similar such combos.
802.11an typically breaks-down over shorter distances than 802.11gn, but when the signal's good it has a higher throughput, & is less susceptible to interference.
Dual-band & dual-radio (simultaneous) routers are increasingly common nowadays. There is a definite trend towards that... to see that...
Take some time to read a dozen or so of the reviews done here this yr
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless
Oh & 802.11n (multi-stream among other things) is not exclusive to 2.4Ghz, it is also for 5Ghz.
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Lindegaard, thanks for that post. Just one question though... when you said it can dualboot with android fx, what did you mean? I don't know of a version or project fx in android.
Also, a more general question: anyone know what kind of battery the N9 uses? Is it a normal battery encased in the unit or a custom job only used in the N9? Because if the first one is true and it's a BL-5J or some other standard model then we won't have legacy problems. All you need is a guy with some tools and a battery you can buy off the shelf. Worst case scenario, a sufficiently non-butter-fingered user can replace it himself. If it's a custom one, though, and Nokia stops producing it... well, tick, tock, tick, tock.
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Also, a more general question: anyone know what kind of battery the N9 uses? Is it a normal battery encased in the unit or a custom job only used in the N9? Because if the first one is true and it's a BL-5J or some other standard model then we won't have legacy problems. All you need is a guy with some tools and a battery you can buy off the shelf. Worst case scenario, a sufficiently non-butter-fingered user can replace it himself. If it's a custom one, though, and Nokia stops producing it... well, tick, tock, tick, tock.
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Originally Posted by jalyst
There are a couple of problems with using the live multitasking vs homescreen widgets:
Gerbick/Marxian, just bumping these 3x posts, if you've got a minute, cheers!
Oh I know, there are cases of this happening...
But are they not isolated incidents relating to shortages in local service centres?*
Nokia hasn't yet switched completely to "anything but N900" has it?
Even if it has, my points about the N900 support being quite different to the N9 remain.
"If" if the N9 sells better, & "if" Nokia doesn't try to kill it sooner in spite of that.
And the N900 actually 1st came out, as early as August/Sept didn't it?
*i.e. because of having to wait many more weeks than initially intended, customers are offered a N8/E7 as an alternative.
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Surely an exaggeration? At least for N9's running the latest builds.
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Isn't the live apps screen basically just a homescreen with widgets*, I dont get what the problems is?
Yes in some ways it's a backward step from Maemo, but certainly not compared to iOS or stock Android.
Yeah why not make the application list also the multi-tasking list, & thus reduce the homescreens to 2.
You could make it clear which apps are running, by making them brighter or similar.
But I guess such an approach would bring some of it's own usability problems.
What don't you like about the grid of icons in the application list, how's it any diff to Maemo?
*better in some respects, because it's the actual app, not an abstraction of it.
1. The live multitasking is less flexible. Neither the user nor the developer can choose the size of the 'tile' or where it is located. The latter could be an issue when there a large number of applications running.
2. The live multitasking view is non-interactive, so you can't replicate the features of a search widget or media widget, for example.
The point regarding the icon grid is that it's an inefficient method of finding your chosen application, once you have a large number installed. It should only be required as a last resort, for those applications that you don't often use. One of the complaints about the iPhone is that users have to frequently scroll through a long list of applications. Meego-Harmattan adopts a similar approach, and exacerbates the problem by omitting the option to save bookmarks within the browser application (at least in the version I'm using). If you have 50 web bookmarks plus a large number of applications, it's going to be a PITA.
These issues aren't dealbreakers, they just make the UX less flexible than what I prefer, but I'm happy with the general concept of swiping to minimise/close applications, because it works well. Marko Ahtisaari explains what I dislike about the UX in a single sentence: “I know we have out simplified the iPhone”.
I can't justify buying one, but I will be happy to receive a free N9 (64GB version, please), if I can win one via the Meego Coding Competition.
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Marko Ahtisaari on the N9:
http://mynokiablog.com/2011/09/08/vi...-next-billion/
As cruel as it may sound for some here, for devs. and Nokia it doesn't really matter what OS runs the swipe UX.
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Originally Posted by giorgosmit
I don't have unrar here, but if I remember correctly, you can see it here.
Also, a more general question: anyone know what kind of battery the N9 uses? Is it a normal battery encased in the unit or a custom job only used in the N9? Because if the first one is true and it's a BL-5J or some other standard model then we won't have legacy problems. All you need is a guy with some tools and a battery you can buy off the shelf. Worst case scenario, a sufficiently non-butter-fingered user can replace it himself. If it's a custom one, though, and Nokia stops producing it... well, tick, tock, tick, tock.
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So swipe will come to symbian/s40. Hmmm. A 1ghz symbian with swipe running Qt... why did Nokia go wp7 again?
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Originally Posted by Rugoz
Where does he say that? I don't see any connection between the further development of SwipeUX on S40 and support for the N9.
This means the N9 will get apps and support from Nokia and developers.
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Originally Posted by giorgosmit
S.Elop.....duh
So swipe will come to symbian/s40. Hmmm. A 1ghz symbian with swipe running Qt... why did Nokia go wp7 again?
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i didn't asked any questions but it seems that the doubt about several things were made clear
NFC: N9 does not have secure chip - so N9 is not our new Mastercard (unless somebody will make some sort of hach)
N9 will defenetly get updates and when launched N9 will become part of Nokias "next disruption" (which also will include WP7/8) So there is some hope for support - however the support will probably only last as long as this unit is on the market
Btw, there may come other colors as well. However, only primary colors - so we will may se a yellow and white N9. One of the Nokia empoyee had a white N9 (no cover) but that was a prototype
battery, it is possible to get a new one but we will have deliver it at a nokia care store.
It does have the fm transmitter
bluetooth is 2.1
you can hack the n9 as you want to and also make a dualboot with fx android
that about it. Ather people will probably clearify other things that i can't remember.
About the DLNA, the N9 is not fast enough to stream 720p so you will have to use the usb-port in that case. Pics, however is no problem.
In terms of apps, there will be somewhat development both globally and locally (denmark...)
I thought I would wait till the cyan n9 will come, but i was the silicone covers and they were really slim so maybe i'll get the n9 black 64gb but then buy a cyan cover.
Roger, over and out