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uvatbc is offline uvatbc
2011-06-17 , 17:32
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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! View Post
Its the most competitive market. What survives in USA, everyone else wants
I'm not sure that's true: While the US is an extremely large market, it isn't the leading cellphone market by a long shot. Asia, Europe and Japan are where most mobiles are sold and where the most innovative designs are introduced.
Look at the iphone for example: It's influence was almost ENTIRELY restricted to the North American market. Even after it was jailbroken and leaked out of the US, it has not captured the market.

I believe the iPhone's major problem was Apple's exclusive tie up with ATT. Add to that: the requirement of iTunes, the walled garden nature of the device, the unremovable battery, the "you're holding it wrong" attitude and the general childishness of it's userbase, the legal restrictiveness of the iPhones SDK ... I could go on and on.

All this makes me NOT want to touch it even with a ten foot long pole.
YMMV.

Edit: I almost forgot Steve Jobs and his marketing folk: The reality distortion field is awe inspiring. I wish Nokia had that.
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2011-06-17 , 17:36
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Well, hopefully this is not old news. My RSS feed reports that it's confirmed that Nokia will unveil some new models on the 21st at the Nokia Connection event.

Stephen Elop: ”He will set the stage for a number of exciting Nokia product and service launches.”

Mary McDowell: ”Mary McDowell will cover Nokia’s strategy around Mobile Phones, including the global launch of brand new mobile devices”

Finnish media has been invited to Espoo on the same day to see what it's all about. They also reminded that the website for the event has been opened:

http://www.nokiaconnection.net/index.php

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http://plaza.fi/muropaketti/taskumuro/ (site in Finnish, sorry)
 

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2011-06-17 , 17:42
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#5473
Originally Posted by Soppa View Post
Well, hopefully this is not old news. My RSS feed reports that it's confirmed that Nokia will unveil some new models on the 21st at the Nokia Connection event.

Stephen Elop: ”He will set the stage for a number of exciting Nokia product and service launches.”

Mary McDowell: ”Mary McDowell will cover Nokia’s strategy around Mobile Phones, including the global launch of brand new mobile devices”

Finnish media has been invited to Espoo on the same day to see what it's all about. They also reminded that the website for the event has been opened:

http://www.nokiaconnection.net/index.php

source:

http://plaza.fi/muropaketti/taskumuro/ (site in Finnish, sorry)
A few S40 and WP for sure
 
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2011-06-17 , 17:46
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Originally Posted by uvatbc View Post
I'm not sure that's true: While the US is an extremely large market, it isn't the leading cellphone market by a long shot. Asia, Europe and Japan are where most mobiles are sold and where the most innovative designs are introduced.
Have you actually used any Japanese phones? They got nice screens and camera, that is all.

Imo the hotspots are in USA, Korea and Scandinavia that got still most of the companies building the networks around globe, but relevance as phone manufacturers and trend setters is nothing like it was in 2000-2007.
People over at Finland where using phones more than anybody else in the globe back in 2006, now they are behind UK. Mostly because of Symbian still having much larger market share than anywhere else.
 
ericsson is offline ericsson
2011-06-17 , 17:55
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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! View Post
Its the most competitive market. What survives in USA, everyone else wants
Sure, like RIM and Palm and Motorola Not many of those got shipped outside the american continent. The only phone worth while from the US (for some people for some weird reasons) is the iPhone. But right now the market for iPhones is saturated, Android is taking over, iPhones are passe' they are not fashionable any more except that journalists love them.

But soon some real American OS is coming from Microsoft, together with some real Finnish HW. Can't wait, got to have one of those, but please Nokia make a communicator version also.
 
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2011-06-17 , 18:10
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Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
Sure, like RIM and Palm and Motorola Not many of those got shipped outside the american continent. The only phone worth while from the US (for some people for some weird reasons) is the iPhone. But right now the market for iPhones is saturated, Android is taking over, iPhones are passe' they are not fashionable any more except that journalists love them.

But soon some real American OS is coming from Microsoft, together with some real Finnish HW. Can't wait, got to have one of those, but please Nokia make a communicator version also.
"real american OS" ROTFL Microsoft is the real copy&paste company
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2011-06-17 , 18:13
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Originally Posted by sevla View Post

Not sure if i posted this here before.. But I think it's pretty safe to say that the rm680, which i assume to be the dev device, will be 1ghz + 512mb device.
Is there any lsmod.jpg from where this one came?

Some of us would love to see which drivers open-sourced and closed-sourced drivers are running?
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2011-06-17 , 18:15
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Originally Posted by momcilo View Post
Is there any lsmod.jpg from where this one came?

Some of us would love to see which drivers open-sourced and closed-sourced drivers are running?
Someone already posted the libs in the harmattan build.. It's somewhere in this thread i believe.
 
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2011-06-17 , 18:24
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
"real american OS" ROTFL Microsoft is the real copy&paste company
As I said, real American
 
ericsson is offline ericsson
2011-06-17 , 18:31
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It is Like Apple. Copy everything, say you invented everything yourself, sue everybody for using "your" inventions. The snag is that courts never believe in your lies, even though you have repeated them so many times that you believe them yourself. "Oh boy, have we patented this" LOL

That IS real American.
 
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