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theonelaw	2016-12-06 , 03:43
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Originally Posted by kyllerbuzcut

Is it worth revisiting a "make out own" type of thing?

TLR - Is it possible to have enough people to agree on sticking a single board PC in a case, along with a screen (6 or 7 inches), a battery, and keyboard?

With bazillions of projects being done with the raspberry pi 1,2&3 it is definitely possible to make something that fits in a pocket...even if it has to be a large coat pocket- I think I'd setle for that.

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End result- a "standard", pocket fitting, Linux PC that you can walk around with, use anywhere and doesn't cost the earth.

Thanks for reminding me.

This is still at the top of my list,
just waiting for a (RESISTIVE!!!) touch-screen HDMI display
to mate with one of the many SBC's I get specs for every month.

No need to ask the forum or get approval,
just do it.
If the case is ugly that can very quickly be fixed.
The battery part becomes just one of those battery banks
or whatever they will let you carry on airlines.

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	Ken-Young	2016-12-06 , 04:56
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Originally Posted by kyllerbuzcut

Is it worth revisiting a "make out own" type of thing?

TLR - Is it possible to have enough people to agree on sticking a single board PC in a case, along with a screen (6 or 7 inches), a battery, and keyboard?
[...]

But why do this instead of just ordering a Pyra? I think it actually will ship in a few months. Why fragment our already lamentably small community into numerous sub projects, no one of which has enough supporters?

So many people say "Oh, it's gotta have a resistive screen" or "no hardware keyboard is a deal-breaker for me". We will be very very lucky to get any machine that is a true successor to our beloved N900s (which are all slowly dying - no mobile phones are designed to last 7+ years). We can't afford to be picky, or to fragment our tiny group with a lot of under supported projects. I saw that happen with the Openmoko software; there were half a dozen different stacks produced, none of which had enough developers.

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	pichlo	2016-12-06 , 06:04
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Originally Posted by juiceme

I hear often this argument that older HW lacks power, but what is this power that people think they need?
I imagine arcade games are just about the only kind of software that requires lots of processing power, and even that is not CPU but GPU power.
I don't do games, so this featureset is irrelevant to me.
Having enough core memory and high-speed connectivity are much more important than graphics throughput.

Unfortunately, the way the web has moved in the past 10 years or so, you need a LOT of processing power just to render basic websites. The browsing experience is the only reason I have swapped my N900 for a Jolla as my daily, even though the N900 is far superior in every other aspect except the CPU power.

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	pichlo	2016-12-06 , 06:19
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Originally Posted by kyllerbuzcut

Is it worth revisiting a "make out own" type of thing?

Sure. That is what the Neo900 is about. See how far that has got.

Originally Posted by Ken-Young

Why fragment our already lamentably small community into numerous sub projects, no one of which has enough supporters?

Because that is the very nature of FOSS as such. There is no "Linux", there are hundreds of small "distributions". There is no good office suite, browser, video editor, shooter game, you name it. There are dozens of small, non-cooperating projects and forks of forks, because someone did not like some tiny bit of something.

Moving the same fragmentation to hardware is the same in a slightly different shade of blue.

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meego_leenooks1	2016-12-06 , 09:37
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Originally Posted by pichlo

Unfortunately, the way the web has moved in the past 10 years or so, you need a LOT of processing power just to render basic websites. The browsing experience is the only reason I have swapped my N900 for a Jolla as my daily, even though the N900 is far superior in every other aspect except the CPU power.

Exactly. Using Firefox with enabled javascript on n950 is a pain, and it is slow and laggy even with javascript disabled, and neo900 is going to have the same weak CPU and the same little 1GB of RAM.

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	wicket	2016-12-06 , 14:54
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Originally Posted by meego_leenooks1

Exactly. Using Firefox with enabled javascript on n950 is a pain, and it is slow and laggy even with javascript disabled, and neo900 is going to have the same weak CPU and the same little 1GB of RAM.

What counts is what you do with that 1GB of RAM. I always found Firefox Mobile to be resource hungry, even on 1GB Harmattan devices. I've had much better experiences with other web browsers on my 256MB N900. The Neo900 would be a huge improvement on that.

Plenty of 1GB Android and iOS devices also have decent web browsing experiences. Those browsers tend to unload background tabs from memory but they're certainly usable. As long as you are conscious of how you fill up your memory, you'll be fine.

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gerbick	2016-12-06 , 17:23
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So... still nothing that's out right now and orderable and deliverable today still exists?

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	Ken-Young	2016-12-06 , 23:37
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Originally Posted by gerbick

So... still nothing that's out right now and orderable and deliverable today still exists?

Oh, they're orderable right now...

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	endsormeans	2016-12-07 , 00:21
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Can I get fries with that order?
Side salad ...not the coleslaw ...I don't think it should be in the "salad classification "...
And a large root beer..
Please ....

Ridonkulous!
That there is virtually zero option currently to our n900's
Well...my nxx0's....since I still use my n800's and n810's....
Sooooo ....actually ...that ain't so bad come to think of it...

But it would be nice to have something that could go toe to toe with the current crap out there....

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