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The N900 is now 15 years old! (9)
to Nokia N900 by Arno_11 - 6 days ago - more...
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2022-01-23
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@ Germany
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#562
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Hmm.. after all these years I suddenly had the urge to check what the status was with the N900...
I'm now running Leste and I have to say I'm seriously impressed by what I'm seeing. Finally a true mobile linux
I have to go through many things, including probably wiping mmcblk1 to use it with Leste (at least as storage dump), but for that I have to make sure I know how exactly u-boot is working, as currently it reads off Mydocs, so I have to change that first.
Lots to do.. but ssh and Modest (!) are working, so for now i'm really happy
I'm now running Leste and I have to say I'm seriously impressed by what I'm seeing. Finally a true mobile linux
I have to go through many things, including probably wiping mmcblk1 to use it with Leste (at least as storage dump), but for that I have to make sure I know how exactly u-boot is working, as currently it reads off Mydocs, so I have to change that first.
Lots to do.. but ssh and Modest (!) are working, so for now i'm really happy
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2022-01-29
, 18:32
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#563
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Originally Posted by nonsuch
I hope that Maemo Leste doesn't go to forever update hell (if you upgrade new version of OS you have to install new version of all software or if you want install new version of software you have to install new version of OS). That is why I don't like iOS/Android/modern macOS (old Mac OS didn't have that problem)/modern Windows/modern Linux. Update stream model sucks!
Please read this: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
Where is downcompability like with Symbian/DOS/TOS/System(Mac OS)/AmigaOS/Windows(up to 98SE)
If software doesn't need new features of OS, you could run it in older version of OS or you could run old software in newer OS. I think one best example is to run Mac System 1 software (from 1985) in Mac OS X 10.4.11PPC (from 2007). And yes you could do opposite too, if you didn't use developing tools based gcc.
Sorry this busting, but I hope we(I hope that I code something to Leste later) take versioning seriously and make programming documentation easy to follow what calls works in what version.
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2022-01-30
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Originally Posted by teroyk
I think that's one of the developers' main points: they want to create a true "mainline" GNU/Linux distribution for phones, where that specifically won't happen, and updates (theoretically) go on forever.
I hope that Maemo Leste doesn't go to forever update hell (if you upgrade new version of OS you have to install new version of all software or if you want install new version of software you have to install new version of OS).
Additionally, if you have a phone with a hardware keyboard you can use non-GUI apps, and those are usually more long-lived anyhow.
Where is downcompability like with Symbian/DOS/TOS/System(Mac OS)/AmigaOS/Windows(up to 98SE)
However, consider 3 decades of GNU/Linux software at your fingertips!
That's what Leste stands for.
I hope we take versioning seriously and make programming documentation easy to follow what calls works in what version.
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2022-01-30
, 12:25
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@ USA
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#565
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I'll try getting this to work on my N900 again. I tried a few weeks ago but hit some problems:
The usb connection is tenuous in the rare cases it connects at all,
I couldn't install u-boot (I imagine I have broken dependencies I tried upgrading glib or libc6 or something a few years ago and havn't been able to install most things), and
my MicroSD card is either corrupt, the wrong class, or I incorrectly formated the storage system.
It looks hopeless but I doubt it is. I'd given up on installing anything new a few years ago. I use the N900 mostly as a media player and report generation device. It's worked fine for that. I even get a rare phonecall on it. I havn't any reason to install new software, but Memo-Leste seems relevant (and I could probably use the web browser more often). I highly appreciate the desire to keep the kernal upstream involved in downstream developments; it's honest and rational. (Google's approach is phony and has fooled many many people.) Any suggestions about how to get my N900 current are appreciated.
The usb connection is tenuous in the rare cases it connects at all,
I couldn't install u-boot (I imagine I have broken dependencies I tried upgrading glib or libc6 or something a few years ago and havn't been able to install most things), and
my MicroSD card is either corrupt, the wrong class, or I incorrectly formated the storage system.
It looks hopeless but I doubt it is. I'd given up on installing anything new a few years ago. I use the N900 mostly as a media player and report generation device. It's worked fine for that. I even get a rare phonecall on it. I havn't any reason to install new software, but Memo-Leste seems relevant (and I could probably use the web browser more often). I highly appreciate the desire to keep the kernal upstream involved in downstream developments; it's honest and rational. (Google's approach is phony and has fooled many many people.) Any suggestions about how to get my N900 current are appreciated.
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2022-02-02
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@ Near Munich
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#566
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The lastest image maemo-leste-1.0-armhf-n900-20220202.img does not contain a uImage on the boot partition.
compared to the working maemo-leste-1.0-armhf-n900-20220109.img
and U-Boot can not start it.
Without really knowing what I do I tried to
which lead to a restart after a short delay (I guess the watchdog) and
which lead to "Error: bad gzipped data" and a restart.
Code:
$ ls boot config-5.15.2 lost+found System.map-5.15.2 vmlinuz-5.15.2
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$ ls config-5.1.21 lost+found System.map-5.1.21 uImage uImage-5.1.21
Without really knowing what I do I tried to
Code:
sudo mkimage -A arm -O linux -T kernel -C none -a 80008000 -e 80008000 -n kernel -d vmlinuz-5.15.2 uImage-5.15.2
Code:
sudo mkimage -A arm -O linux -T kernel -C gzip -a 80008000 -e 80008000 -n kernel -d vmlinuz-5.15.2 uImage-5.15.2
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2022-02-02
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@ Helsinki, Finland.
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#567
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You should report this to the team on iirc channel or github. This is more a user chat thread.
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2022-02-02
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@ Sofia,Bulgaria
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#568
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We are aware and working on it
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720p video support on N900,SmartReflex on N900,Keyboard and mouse support on N900
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Never fear. I is here.
720p video support on N900,SmartReflex on N900,Keyboard and mouse support on N900
Nothing is impossible - Stable thumb2 on n900
Community SSU developer
kernel-power developer and maintainer
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2022-02-07
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Joined on Feb 2011
@ Germany
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#569
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Guys: https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=101300
In short, we need everyone we can get to join the Maemo eV.
In short, we need everyone we can get to join the Maemo eV.
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2022-03-22
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Great news from Leste,
Have you seen this?
Have you seen this?
Originally Posted by Maemo Leste Blog
A couple of months ago we were made aware of the DAPSI project by our dear Michiel of NLnet. DAPSI is one of the projects in the scope of the European Union's Next Generation Internet initiative and it offers funding for projects that research data portability and privacy solutions to give people better control over their personal data.
Seeing this, we realised that Maemo Leste could be a good fit. We managed to write an application and apply to the open call just before the deadline.
A month or so later...
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...recycled devices, hack, arduino...
Toshiba Libretto 70ct -> Psion -> Palm -> Openmoko Freerunner -> gta02 -> gta04 -> n900 n900 n900 n900
...recycled devices, hack, arduino...
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N900 in 2020
SFOS in 2021