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2011-09-13 , 15:05
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And the N900 for example, can you even imagine using it without even the first firmware update.... would have ended in the bin for sure !.

Oh and i suppose the CSSU should neve have been? because that team is ALL about updates !.
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2011-09-13 , 15:08
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Originally Posted by selfish_russian View Post
Yeah? How come? It will turn into pumpkin in a year? No. It will be the same phone as a year before.
No, it will not.

- Battery will hold a charge measurably shorter.
- Components will have a lower quality because of age.
- Memory will be more fragmented.
- There will be less free memory due to accumulated used and rarely used software.
- Some software might expire (typical limited Nav licence).
- Other software will be outdated when applied to real world usage (typical Flash version).
- If newer software is installed, it might run slower due to higher demands to hardware.
- The backlight will most likely have faded some.
- Paint and glass will be scratched to a certain extent.

A software update will not fix the scratches and only rarely improve the CPU speed, but is often seen to have improved the memory usage, file system, and battery life of even a worn old phone. A clean reinstall will almost always lead to a faster system.

If just used as it is for a year, a year old phone is not as good as it was a year ago. If updated, it might even be better.
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2011-09-13 , 15:08
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2011-09-13 , 15:12
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Originally Posted by Bernard View Post
People always cared about support. I assume you mean firmware updates in your quote. If you say that people didn't care about firmware updates before the iPhone, that may be partially true.
But I think it is mostly because more modern devices can do a lot more things, and often are released with bugs in a number of the advertised features (in order to release "on time").

If the N9 has some nasty bugs in the software on release, buyers will want them fixed. And given the fact that the N9 will be the last MeeGo Nokia phone, and development on the platform will be lowered, it is a valid question to ask how much "support" the N9 will get from Nokia.


If Nokia were offering a cheap and completely open device, I would be OK with a lack of support. What Nokia are actually offering is an expensive, partially open device, so it is perfectly reasonable to expect them to at least provide bug fixes. Then there is the question of hardware repairs/replacement...
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2011-09-13 , 15:12
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Originally Posted by xerxes2 View Post
One happy (pre order) customer:
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2011-09-13 , 15:19
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Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
You obviously know nothing about software updates !.
You obviously don't understand that N9 is Perfect!

Please shut the F... Up!

N9 is not for You - Go Away!
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2011-09-13 , 15:27
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You obviously don't understand that N9 is Perfect!

Please shut the F... Up!

N9 is not for You - Go Away!
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2011-09-13 , 15:38
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Originally Posted by marxian View Post
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What Nokia are actually offering is an expensive, partially open device, so it is perfectly reasonable to expect them to at least provide bug fixes.
Then there is the question of hardware repairs/replacement...
And I don't think anyone is in disagreement with you regarding that.
What some of us are in disagreement about, is to what degree fixes & repairs/replacements will occur.
abill_uk for e.g. is trying to claim it'll be non-existent, I say his full-of-****.

Based on the N9's trajectory, & what Nokia has officially said/done in the past 6mth.
It looks more likely to me & many others, that it's a different 'kettle' to the N900.
But I'm happy to admit that I can't predict the future...
So what I'm saying may well be just as much full-of-****.

Truth is, no one knows what's going to happen....
The only way to clear-it-all-up once & for all....
Is to formulate a series of Qns around support, & then put them directly to senior personnel.

I've been thinking of that for a few weeks, but personally I think it's a waste of time.
They'll simply tell us whatever we want to hear, whilst maintaining suitable vagueness.
Plus some will probably still chose to write-it-off as irrelevant, which it possibly ultimately is.
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2011-09-13 , 15:43
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Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
wassup duck mumee not give you your sweeties today ? yer pathetic
he is essentially right however; all we get is *****ing and moaning, which is especially trying given your previous uber-fanboy attitude prior to the undelivered consignment of N9's you were supposed to receive on the 2nd.

you appear very disappointed that your expectations have not been met, perhaps it is time to move on.

it will at least save the rest of us from having to listen to your continual griping.

the N9 is not the handset i hoped it would be either, nor too is the level of commitment from Nokia, that said, it is still the phone I most want so i'm sticking around for the ride and accepting it for what it is.

pick a direction and follow it, this purgatory you insist on maintaining is hell for the rest of us regardless of what it's doing to you.
 

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