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	Dave999	2017-08-25 , 13:22
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Originally Posted by nh1402

what about the height?, good luck trying to reach the top left/right corner of the screen on the S8+.

NP. There is an app for that!

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nh1402	2017-08-25 , 13:24
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Originally Posted by Dave999

NP. There is an app for that!

moving the screen down via software is not a solution, that just shows how stupid the screen size and aspect ratio is.

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	Venemo	2017-08-25 , 14:14
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Originally Posted by NX500

There is one thing I noticed.

Chen mentioned the device will have (a) 2.5D glass/screen.

But the rendered devices appear to have an flat screen, enclosed by round edges, the same as the Jolla-phone.

Are these renders just not final, or is the decision itself, about the device, having a "true" 2.5D screen not final?

What exactly is a "2.5D" screen?

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	chenliangchen	2017-08-25 , 14:29
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Originally Posted by juiceme

The device looks very nice in the renderings.

However I do have some concern on the mechanicals; I have had E7 before, and have on one occasion had the privilige to hold @eekkelund's N950 in my hands and in both of those there is the same difficulty.

The slider mechanism is fairly difficult to open even with 2 hands, and pretty much impossible to do with one hand, even when you have dry and warm hands.
With cold/sweaty/greasy hands it gets even more difficult.

I have almost dropped those while trying to push open the cover to get to the keyboard!

Now it may be that I am just a mämmikoura and not nimble enough to handle such techniques but I hope this will be both easy to open and firmly closed when required.

It works differently than N950/E7. N950/E7's slider angle is fixed, and user has to lift the screen edge from the rear (from my experience) to make it easier to slide out. In our perspective, this has some disadvs:
- Can not change angle. I recon some will prefer the flat screen
- Hard to slide out, as juice pointed out above
- Not robust enough, the screen was dependent on a single stand/arm...

So we have re-designed the slider part (in Moto Mod, will be the same in this device) that when you slide out keyboard, it will be flat. After you reach the end, the user can stay with flat screen, or lift the screen up to the angle you are comfortable. This solution will solve all the above problems. Hope that clears.

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	chenliangchen	2017-08-25 , 14:32
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Originally Posted by NX500

There is one thing I noticed.

Chen mentioned the device will have (a) 2.5D glass/screen.

But the rendered devices appear to have an flat screen, enclosed by round edges, the same as the Jolla-phone.

Are these renders just not final, or is the decision itself, about the device, having a "true" 2.5D screen not final?

I'd welcome the decision of having a regular 2D screen with round edges, though..
Because I like to put screen protectors on my phones, which wont really work, because screen protectors dont adhere onto round glass edges.
It also/hopefully means, that there is less glue used in this device...

The screen itself is flat, (compare with Samsung or BB Priv's curved edge screen.)

2.5D screen should be 2.5D glass, if I caused some confusion. The edge side of the glass will be curved to match the design of the phone.

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	Dave999	2017-08-25 , 14:38
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Lift the screen up? That sounds like a weak spot. Cool, but how will that work after 100 times?

That's where the screw and the screwdriver would be handy

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nh1402	2017-08-25 , 15:20
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Originally Posted by Venemo

What exactly is a "2.5D" screen?

As far as I'm aware all that means is the two sides (of the glass) (right at the edges) are ever so slightly curved.

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NX500	2017-08-25 , 15:37
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Originally Posted by chenliangchen

The screen itself is flat, (compare with Samsung or BB Priv's curved edge screen.)

2.5D screen should be 2.5D glass, if I caused some confusion. The edge side of the glass will be curved to match the design of the phone.

I see.
On the renderings it almost looks like the glass is completely flat but seamlessy descends into the curved bezel and frame, e.g. Jollas first phone.

Thanks for clearing things up!

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NX500	2017-08-25 , 15:44
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Originally Posted by nh1402

As far as I'm aware all that means is the two sides (right at the edges) are ever so slightly curved.

Correct.

Most prominent devices with 2.5D glass are the newer Samsung Galaxy Phones, with their curved AMOLED screens and Apples current iPhone lineup with flat LCD screens, whose bezel's glass edges are slightly curved.

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Originally Posted by NX500

Most prominent devices with 2.5D glass are the newer Samsung Galaxy Phones, with their curved AMOLED screens and Apples current iPhone lineup with flat LCD screens, whose bezel's glass edges are slightly curved.

Don't forget the beautiful N9. Of course, that was before it was given the flashy marketing term.

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