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2011-09-14 , 17:19
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
And at the same time those dual/triple cores is often NOT optimized and is using totally different OS. So the comparision is just plain pointless until we now how the OS:es compares in case of smothness and how good pictures camera, video etc...

Come back when device is released and we can compare.
As I posted else-thread...

Sure, it's a virtual machine based operating system but despite your word for it, there's plenty of reviews and video out there that seems to disagree with the assertion you're attempting to make that virtual machine code runs slow [or that it doesn't take advantage of the multiple cores efficiently]. (i.e. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWTTVr0lvmo or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvKGGYfM-Dg or any number of other demos of people running pretty buttery smooth stuff on devices that are as much as a year old sometimes--by the by, that last one takes virtualization a step farther by emulating the Tegra chipset graphics on non-Tegra devices... so.. there's that, too.) Have you even used an Android device lately?
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2011-09-14 , 17:20
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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Concave, not convex.
Ahem... Curved.
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2011-09-14 , 17:24
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Originally Posted by PortaDiFerro View Post
Many places don't seem to have 64GB version for preorder at all, because they can't get hold of them.

Just gives a feeling Nokia is limiting the production for some reason.

I guess I'll just have to put a preorder in just in case, if it's gonna be a long wait for next batch. I was just hoping to scout the prices for a bit..
Here in sweden its actually the 64Gb who is sold by atleast two of the carriers.

But it maybe is the reason price got up on 64Gb :O
 
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2011-09-14 , 17:27
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Erm... don't both of the Google Nexus S phones already have curved screens?
Only in one dimension
 
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2011-09-14 , 17:32
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Originally Posted by myrjola View Post
They had a N9 presentation yesterday at Elisa Studio in Helsinki.
I visited there (didn't see the actual presentation) later in the evening and was able to handle the N9. Very nice and pretty much what I expected, swipe is easy and I am sure that N9 will be very popular.
Anyway one other person asked about the deliveries and one Nokia person said that one of the (possible) reasons for the slow availability is that it takes much longer to produce N9s than the other handsets (several times longer). The physical construction (and production process) is quite different from any other current mobile.
He also said that the demand has been greater than expected.
At least the N9s coming for sale in Finland are being produced at the Salo factory.

I was going to preorder one from Elisa but they had only the 16GB version available for preorders.

Trying to get myself the 64 GB ASAP.
So this is the reason they abandoned Meego? I mean if it takes more time its a BIG reason for the to not using this TI chips (for example). Everything that costs money is bad for bussiness. A big reason the price will be higher for consumers....

I mean Symbian is using same CPU for and probadly most the same "layout" on most phones (ARM11) means lowering prices...

Also they maybe didnt get a good deal with Texas instrument and instead goes for Qualcom and as we know WP7 is already ported. Meego is not
 
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2011-09-14 , 17:35
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
They should just start to call this the Nokia UN9CORN.

It's an ideal beast and everyone wants a part of it, yet we may not see it at all.
UN9CORN Sounds like a group of countries developed a GM crop to end world hunger.
 

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UN9CORN Sounds like a group of countries developed a GM crop to end world hunger.
uN9corn!

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2011-09-14 , 17:44
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
He doesn't need to be there... this is a competitive environment and if it costs Nokia's competitors FAR less to do better, then there is a failing. THAT is what it appears to me that Bernard pointed out. This isn't voodoo speculation, it's not black-box calculating and it's not really all that mysterious or odd for someone to point out that it shouldn't cost that much if many of Nokia's competitors are doing better, faster and cheaper work... then extending that into the speculative, but cognizant "they should be able to better, faster and cheaper with this too" comment.
ofcourse you can cut prices by manufactoring in China or other lowprice countrys where the workers is payed half or even lower salary.

Question is if thats good for European and US as countrys in the long run!?

Those price comparisions should deal with those facts too..
 
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2011-09-14 , 17:47
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
Erm... don't both of the Google Nexus S phones already have curved screens?



I go back to my question... what makes Nokia's N9 so damned expensive? Can't be the curved screen, then, the Nexus S is specs-wise far better and it ALSO has a curved glass screen. :P
I bet the case is as follows:

Nokia board of directors have been gathering for Friday sauna since late 2008 and after the N900 was released in 2009 they started reading up on TMO, just for kicks and giggles. It didn't take long before they discovered several members complaining about the tablet, about it not being a true IT. They were greatly amused by this, as the N900 was obviously an internet tablet with the additional phone functionality. One thing that they were particularly amused by was users who didn't even own the device, who still ranted on and on about how flawed, overpriced, under-speced and bulky it was etc.

Then came 2011. When the first hands on's of the newly announced successor of the N900, namely the N9, started going around the internets with nothing short of glowing first impressions, the board got a little bit uncomfortable. "If the whiners and complainers buy the N9, and are happy about the product, what happens to our Friday sauna-lolz?": they said. This is when they came up with the pricing of the N9. "There we go! Too expensive for the trolls! Now our Friday saunas are safe, FOREVER!!"
 

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2011-09-14 , 17:53
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
And at the same time those dual/triple cores is often NOT optimized and is using totally different OS. So the comparision is just plain pointless until we now how the OS:es compares in case of smothness and how good pictures camera, video etc...

Come back when device is released and we can compare.
huh?? what does software optimization have anything to do with what I mentioned? I mentioned nothing of performance, only manufacturing components.
eg A dual core processor COSTS more than an older single core processor unless I'm mistaken
 

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