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#581
Originally Posted by marcinw View Post
Nokia company has got a lot of resources and doesn't have really killer products since longer. Sells N900 for very big money and it's difficult to classify it:
In my opinion Nokia became company with a lot bureaucracy. Too good Linux device will make problems with selling high level Symbian devices too...
In my opinion nothing really good will happen here now...unless Nokia will change own strategy. With current one is lost.
Are you a stock holder? or on what level does that interest users? As long as I don't see them running out of business this year I don't care... even if they do, there's the community.
I'm sure they have professionals to debate these matters so why should we?
1. phone ? Infamous MMS issues, microphone problems in many units, etc. etc.
MMS issues? what issues to something that was not implemented?
What is the statistical significance of "P" considering microphone issues, in the deliverd devices?
4. smartphone ? doesn't have all functions known from 99% of other Nokia smartphones or products from other companies...
Like MMS or videocall?
5. step 4 of 5 in Maemo glory ? So, shortly c..p ?
So why would anyone get a car/PC/OS/ when a better one came out next year?
 
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#582
"MMS issues? what issues to something that was not implemented?
What is the statistical significance of "P" considering microphone issues, in the deliverd devices?"

agree about mms- they said they wernt gonna include it as this device is an alllways connect all singing communication device. and they feel like the market didnt want it(there were probally incorrect)- but still they didnt say they would include- no qualms.
second one is not a good thing- and the rebooting problem and battery/charging issues add and it sucks- nokia rushed this and its not a good thing when such a massive brand does this. it is a lack of nasic quality control over getting something out b4 cristmass
 
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Yes, it did feel rushed out but as childish as it may be it felt rewarding having it on christmas

I don't like though to see so many complaints that don't make a point and are not objective. This is a community for passionate people and for contribution.

If there's something to whine about there's the nokia forum, theres the tech support & call center.
It's not like we're going to fix anyone's broken microphone - that's a new one for me.

And there's this: http://revdkathy.livejournal.com/59199.html
 

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but these boards did fix my rebooting issues- and it was only ment to be a temp fix- now i am stuck with a phone that drains its battery to fast . if i never used the fix and just sent it back, i may have a perfect machine, and i may be on your side of the fence.

i just want nokia to release the statement if we cant fix it we will give you a new machine.

anyway no one is to blame here at all, and i will try and be more reasoned.
 
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#585
Originally Posted by marcinw View Post
Nokia company has got a lot of resources and doesn't have really killer products since longer. Sells N900 for very big money and it's difficult to classify it:

1. phone ? Infamous MMS issues, microphone problems in many units, etc. etc.
I just sent a couple of MMS to TMo and ATT phones with fMMS help. What is an issue with MMS?

I never had any microphone issue with N900. What is it?

2. tablet ? not too small ?
3. mobile computer ? why without USB host for example ?
4. smartphone ? doesn't have all functions known from 99% of other Nokia smartphones or products from other companies...
5. step 4 of 5 in Maemo glory ? So, shortly c..p ?
N900 is in it's own class - open source phone. I think it has sense to stop complaining and read around and learn how to live with N900. And if you can - you may extend it's capabilities. No joke - look into fMMS, for exam - people develops it, not Nokia ... but because it's unique class - Open Source Phone.

In my opinion nothing really good will happen here now...unless Nokia will change own strategy.
Nokia - if you read it, please do NOT change a strategy. Just look that happened with MS, Solaris, VMS and Linux - the more device is attractive at initial stage for developers the more success it would get later. Open Source gives us a chance, don't stick with this complaining guys - they are not developers, they can't give anything for any of us... may be just $600 to Nokia but it is a slim chance.

Earlier there were some good ideas: exchangeable covers, good batteries, low SAR design, etc. etc.
Please - don't spend resources on all that crap. Please do VIDEO in phone application. You are positioned now with N900 in the best - you have equipment and we need only an application. You do the essential skeleton, we do we rest (bells and whistles). It will be a killer app!
 
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#586
Originally Posted by schettj View Post
None of those links have anything more to do with nokia and MS other then nokia getting the info it needs to provide exchange sync for symbian and other nokia devices.

The rumor last month was that Nokia would buy Palm. I guess next month it will be that IBM will buy Microsoft?
sorry for such a confusing post I made

Everything I am trying to say is based off speculation. I see 2 big companies collaborating on different projects and imagine that more things are talked about then what is revealed to the public.

I think businesses explore every avenue for profit and given the fact that Winmo phones dropped in popularity due to competition. How could MS pass up asking the world's largest phone maker to make a Winmo phone ?

We've seen more announcements for android than winmo lately, they have to be trying to garner support.

Nokia of course(if it happened) refused MS but Nokia released a windows 7 netbook that was late to the game seems odd to me.


Doesn't a dual boot maemo/win7 netbook make more sense ? The leading brands of netbooks have already been established, unless they had some radical hardware changeup or feature which it doesn't one has to wonder under what expectations was it released. To me this hints at MS's influence for them to launch this device.

Maybe they were tempted by sweet office mobile deals or something. With all the speculation of apple launching tablets and the subsequent announcements of other tablets and etc. Doesn't a nice 5 or 7 inch(or both or bigger) mainstream maemo tablet(dual boot win7)sound better ? This would have allowed them to attract those who otherwise would not be attracted to maemo along with riding the win 7 wave. So why just launch a plain netbook with a big battery ?

So given this we can say ms and nokia has some type of working relationship. And if Nokia continues to lose smartshare they might turn to this relationship to launch some products. But with HTC there whose to say what might happen.

Again this is all my speculation but to me still falls within the realm of possibilities. Largely because of how the n97 was handled it was well designed though underpowered and the software ui needed work. Then nokia releases a update for the 5800 making the chip the same speed as the n97. This disappointed many people who felt they needed more from a "flagship" device.

I think this creates a situation or rather pressure for a hit, surely the n900 attract in some people new to both nokia and maemo. First impressions stick, supporting a device matters, actively developing for it alongside the community is what will put customers at ease and increase sales.

I think it's required for the n900 to reach it's potential and that it MUST reach that potential in order to be viewed as a success. Otherwise outside this community it'll be pointed to and hinted at as another disappointment and that nokia falls short even with a wonderful device and platform.

Anything viewed as a failure will be treated as one and people will stay away, how will the n910 be recieved ? As "another hyped product" ? And Nokia will shrink possibly enough to be bought out.

A good example of this is archos they make a line of pvr/pmp players that otherwise would sell crazy but they destroyed their rep and then they released the archos 5 internet tablet and the archos 9 pctablet to little fanfare..

Last edited by Slick; 2010-01-10 at 10:41. Reason: corrections
 
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#587
Im sure someone's linked this already...

http://www.strandreports.com/sw4031.asp

 
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#588
Originally Posted by egoshin View Post
I just sent a couple of MMS to TMo and ATT phones with fMMS help. What is an issue with MMS?
Yes, the most expensive device in the Nokia history (excluding Vertu of course ), company didn't say official word about it up to this moment and we have started to have some less or more working solutions from independent people.

What a big success ! What will be next ? Few screws and parts in the box and schematics of joining them ?

Nokia made mistake and many people will see again Linux as system for geeks:

N900 - something is not working (because of design, logistic mistakes), but for many people it will be because of Linux inside

Nokia has got knowledge with creating new devices: if this is their full response for iPhone, Android, WinMo, it means, that they're simply weak. Such device could be revolution 2 years ago, not now.

Originally Posted by egoshin View Post
I never had any microphone issue with N900. What is it?
This is was only example. If you want more, look on other threads.

Originally Posted by egoshin View Post
N900 is in it's own class - open source phone. I think it has sense to stop complaining and read around and learn how to live with N900.
Yes, I understand. There is excellent N900 and excellent Nokia. Nokia has got vision and the rest of world is horrible, ugly, bad and so one.

Originally Posted by egoshin View Post
And if you can - you may extend it's capabilities. No joke - look into fMMS, for exam - people develops it, not Nokia ... but because it's unique class - Open Source Phone.
The problem is that Nokia doesn't give enough support here. Like you notified - people are developing some things, not Nokia. It should look better/different with this device price.

Originally Posted by egoshin View Post
Open Source gives us a chance,
Yes

Originally Posted by egoshin View Post
don't stick with this complaining guys - they are not developers, they can't give anything for any of us...
And you're wrong here.

Last edited by marcinw; 2010-01-10 at 11:06.
 
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#589
no firmware update, no ovistore yet, limiting my usage and 3g so that i can get more than 6hrs usage.

i am starting to think yes, it sucks
 
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#590
Originally Posted by n900_ag View Post
no firmware update, no ovistore yet, limiting my usage and 3g so that i can get more than 6hrs usage.

i am starting to think yes, it sucks
by far that is my only complaint with this phone....the fact that it IS so powerful but I can't unleash its full potential because as soon as I put it in 3G mode I have to acknowledge the fact that it will be dead within 6-8 hours. I just recently (the past 3 days) have realized that is what is sucking up my battery. when it is on GSM i can go idle for 2 full days but as soon as i put it in 3G and do a littttttle bit of browsing or email or anything for that matter it goes flaccid.

thankfully qwerty12 came out with the status applet to switch from 3G to GSM and that lifted my spirits a bit in regards to the potential this device has. i think we should just try to stay positive and hope for the best (from Nokia's future FW releases and support and the wonderful constructive community we have here on these forums)

Last edited by HRZ; 2010-01-10 at 11:55.
 
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