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shmerl is offline shmerl
2013-11-29 , 17:58
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Originally Posted by buenavista62 View Post
Regarding E-Mail sync I've got a question: Why is for instance the iPhone able to receive emails as soon as they come (don't need to set a sync intervall) and N9 (and Jolla) aren't. What differences are there that the iPhone is able to do it and Jolla not?
E-mail didn't yet get a proper open and standard protocol for duplex e-mail notifications (push). The only close approximation is IMAP IDLE, which is close in the idea to XMPP BOSH. It's not really a proper solution, just a workaround but it works good enough until better protocols will be designed. Jolla should probably support it.

It's weird though, that in this day and age such thing isn't ready still.

UPDATE: There is apparently this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemonade_Profile
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2013-11-29 , 18:06
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Originally Posted by att View Post
I don't know what is your purpose for these messages. If you are truly concerned, you can try to help Mer and Jolla people in many ways.

Based on your definitions iPhone, Android and Windows Phone have all been total failures. iPhone was so bad at the beginning that Steve Jobs' lauch event for iPhone was very precisely planned and written. For example Jobs changed iPhones multiple times during the event so people wouldn't see iPhone actually crashing all the time. Even WP/Lumia cannot hold your definitions.

There has been problems with Jolla and I hope that Jolla's people will fix them soon. I will be writting some feedback for Jolla when I have time. Hopefully soon. I want to influence to the journey of Jolla.

Hey dude, which century do you live in. It's been 7 years since Jobs and iphone. Certain things are taken for granted now by the average Joe. The 99 percentile will not be happy with beta and alpha versions of email app. The current Jolla is clearly a developers tool, not very day device for average Joe.
 
MartinK is offline MartinK
2013-11-29 , 18:08
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#583
Well, if someone calls you, you are identified at once. So the same should be true for emails. The only issue could be the volume of the incoming email, making this infeasible (SPAM DDoSing the mobile network ).
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2013-11-29 , 18:11
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#584
Originally Posted by att View Post
I have understood that Jolla Store (harbour) doesn't currently support payments but you can still implement your own payment solution inside the app.
uh....... that is something I really hate. A very sneaky way to actually rip off customer who was lured with "free" app just to realize that after XY levels there's no more unles you pay something.
It makes sense for buying tables (an actual whole new game) in pinball arcade but buying 5 moves in candy crush for 1.20$ is
 
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2013-11-29 , 18:12
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#585
FWIW: http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/29/a...;ncid=rss_semi

(they'll have a video at some point)
 

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2013-11-29 , 18:18
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman View Post
Hey dude, which century do you live in. It's been 7 years since Jobs and iphone. Certain things are taken for granted now by the average Joe. The 99 percentile will not be happy with beta and alpha versions of email app. The current Jolla is clearly a developers tool, not very day device for average Joe.
well, certain things were granted in 2007 also. Certain thing were granted when WP7 came out. What's your point?
 

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2013-11-29 , 18:19
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#587
Regarding the verge review, the guy is complaining that gestures from outside do different things than gestures inside an app.

Duh! Then what would be the point of outside gestures? If they weren't really nice and productive neither apple (ios7 control center), google(chrome) mozilla(latest FirefoxOS), nor BlackBerry (BB10) would have implemented them.

So it isn't even unfamilliar (which he confuses as unintuitive) while the exact same gestures on the N9 were unfamilliar back then.

Comparing everything with android and saying they should go with it is stupid, it's like saying that all other car manufacturers should stop producing their cars and quit because the corolla is the most popular car in the world.

Regarding email push, N9 had perfectly good push email functionality. (In fact it was the only part of fenix I liked) My gmail messages appeared faster on the N9 than the GMail web interface.
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2013-11-29 , 18:21
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engadget also complains about the UX, but they are known to be fandroids, so...

Personally, it took me 5 minutes (yes, 5) to get used to the N9 and I could never go back. In fact, I keep trying to wake up my iPhone with a double tap. I estimate that Jolla will be another 5 minutes to get used to. The question is whether I could still go back to the N9 seemlessly ;-)

EDIT: engadget is still trying to upload their video. They are probably using an S3 or something or other ;-)
 

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2013-11-29 , 18:24
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Originally Posted by juiceme View Post
I am not familiar with iPhone, does it work that way with all accounts or does it need some "special apple email account" to work with; specifically what is the mail protocol used?
AFAIK, Apple have one or more servers to get messages from all user push services, and resend them to his/her mobile. The advantage of this is that the phone have an unique push channel openned, consuming less battery in net connections and a bit less CPU and memory to mantain push channels opened. Also affect less to the lack of decent multitasking.
 

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2013-11-29 , 18:36
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#590
*cross-post*

This really deserves it's own thread, & is probably not entirely on-topic here, but see this: Play Store for Jolla
(my absence didn't last long, ugh....)
 

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