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joeD is offline joeD
2008-07-08 , 18:50
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Qole, thanks for all your hard work on this package, and an equally big thanks to all the affiliated parties involved. This is an amazing feat. I have an observation and a question or two. Firstly, after I installed the easy deb package, ran it and downloaded the debian image, I noticed on my hildon desktop that all my little pop-up dialogue boxes are either in the upper left hand or lower right hand corners now instead of the middle of the screen. I'm not sure if this is normal and it's not that big of deal, just takes some getting used to. Is there a way to get the original way back? I was just curious. Secondly, my question is with regards to the time setting. When you say this:

"Setting the clock to the right time zone: Kilian has the answer! After running the chroot, get a (non-Debian) root prompt and enter the following:"

Code:
cp -a /etc/localtime /debian/etc/localtime

Is this in the Debian root X-term? If so, how do you get a non-debian root after running debian chroot? Sorry for the silly question, I'm learning everyday about this stuff and am totally captivated! Thanks for the help and the incredible application/alternative OS.
 
ponkwillis is offline ponkwillis
2008-07-08 , 18:53
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#52
Originally Posted by joeD View Post
Qole, thanks for all your hard work on this package, and an equally big thanks to all the affiliated parties involved. This is an amazing feat. I have an observation and a question or two. Firstly, after I installed the easy deb package, ran it and downloaded the debian image, I noticed on my hildon desktop that all my little pop-up dialogue boxes are either in the upper left hand or lower right hand corners now instead of the middle of the screen. I'm not sure if this is normal and it's not that big of deal, just takes some getting used to. Is there a way to get the original way back? I was just curious. Secondly, my question is with regards to the time setting. When you say this:

"Setting the clock to the right time zone: Kilian has the answer! After running the chroot, get a (non-Debian) root prompt and enter the following:"

Code:
cp -a /etc/localtime /debian/etc/localtime

Is this in the Debian root X-term? If so, how do you get a non-debian root after running debian chroot? Sorry for the silly question, I'm learning everyday about this stuff and am totally captivated! Thanks for the help and the incredible application/alternative OS.

No this is not in debian root x-term. Forget debian for this. You need to run normal xterm (from Utilities) and there you need a way to become root. There is a package called 'becomeroot' that lets you do 'sudo gainroot' and then you become root on maemo's xterm. There are other ways too and this is just one of the ways.
 
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2008-07-08 , 19:10
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#53
Originally Posted by joeD View Post
I noticed on my hildon desktop that all my little pop-up dialogue boxes are either in the upper left hand or lower right hand corners now instead of the middle of the screen. I'm not sure if this is normal and it's not that big of deal, just takes some getting used to. Is there a way to get the original way back? I was just curious.
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I install qwerty12's movable-windows hack for OS2008. You really need it for running Debian programs in OS2008. If you hate that, uninstall my .deb, or copy /etc/osso-af-init/matchbox.defs.orig back to matchbox.defs and everything will be the way it was before.
Ha, I just got told that my message was too short. I guess because it is all quotes.

So I'll post a direct link to the big Debian tarball:

http://qole.maemobox.org/debian-chroot-img-v2.tar.bz2
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cfrantz is offline cfrantz
2008-07-08 , 20:50
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Thank you for making the Nokia much more useful. Installation was a breeze. I have been waiting a while for something to make the Nokia more than the just a fun gadget.

I do have a couple issues that I am not sure how to work around. When using my iGo bluetooth keyboard with either ABIword or OpenOffice with IceWM, the keyboard defaults to all caps. The only way to make it work is to hold down the shift key while I type for lowercase letters. The Caps lock key doesn't reset to lowercase. When I open ABIword and OpenOffice without running IceWM it defaults to all caps, but when I use the Caps Lock key, I get lower case letters.

I cannot get my Think Outside bluetooth mouse to work in either mode.

I am still playing around with some of the other things. Things look great. Thank you!
 
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2008-07-09 , 00:08
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Kazehakase is a lighter-weight gecko-based browser. (it still isn't lightning-fast, though) Previously, I couldn't get it to run Java, but I just installed it in this Debian package and it runs Java applets now!

If you want Java in your browser on the tablet, this might be your best bet at the moment.



That's the matchbox-keyboard running, by the way. I'm getting pretty sick of the flakey xvkbd. I think the next debian image will have matchbox-keyboard as the default virtual keyboard...

(I also noticed that I had to do an apt-get update before apt-get install kazehakase because they've obviously done a big package update)
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jcherepy is offline jcherepy
2008-07-09 , 02:53
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Ok, I had to start with a clean (reflashed) N800. I then installed becomeroot and python 2.5. I downloaded the easy-deb-chroot package and set things a-runnin' while I went out to dinner and a club meeting. When I returned, I had a "sucessful install" message on the tablet. Everything seems to work so far, but I haven't had a chance to play with it much. My Apple Bluetooth Keyboard that I paired in Maemo works in Abiword.

Thanks for all of your good work.

Bill
 
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Greyghost is offline Greyghost
2008-07-09 , 03:07
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O ack. I was installing and ran out of battery power, so the tablet shut down mid-install. I had downloaded the packages and was installing the debian package. Now, re-booted, xterm opens and runs into an endless loop when I try to install.

Sorry for mesing things up in such a dumb way. Any suggestions on how to get restarted without a re-flash? I deleted the file on my MMC2, but that didn't work
 
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2008-07-09 , 05:35
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Originally Posted by Greyghost View Post
O ack. I was installing and ran out of battery power, so the tablet shut down mid-install. I had downloaded the packages and was installing the debian package. Now, re-booted, xterm opens and runs into an endless loop when I try to install.

Sorry for mesing things up in such a dumb way. Any suggestions on how to get restarted without a re-flash? I deleted the file on my MMC2, but that didn't work
I've seen that endless loop behaviour before when the tablet didn't have an Internet connection... are you online?

You could download the file manually using this link and drop it onto your mmc2, then tell the installer that you want to install there... It will go right into the extraction phase...

What's the xterm saying in its endless loop? You should be able to read it if you open a terminal window and type the following:

Code:
/home/user/img-install/installer.sh
When the endless loops starts, hit CTRL-C and then post what it's saying...
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2008-07-09 , 05:38
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#59
I have a few questions if i create an empty ext2 first partition on my memory card will this deb install the debian image there? If so will debian utilize all the space on the partition, allowing me to download large apps without worrying about running out of space? Or is the size of the image fixed and the size of the partition doesn't matter?
 
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2008-07-09 , 14:31
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Originally Posted by D'ohboy View Post
I have a few questions if i create an empty ext2 first partition on my memory card will this deb install the debian image there? If so will debian utilize all the space on the partition, allowing me to download large apps without worrying about running out of space? Or is the size of the image fixed and the size of the partition doesn't matter?
This package downloads a fixed size image file. If you want to set up a more advanced system, post in the Debian chroot thread and we'll help you do it.
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