Although Engadget updated their article, unless Reuters/Garter give some kind of correction, the majority of the internet will think that their estimates are true.

It doesnt matter if they really did sell 100,000 in 5 weeks, Reuters published otherwise and that's what's being propagated.

Who? qgil? His not in the position to say anything about how N900 have sold before someone lets him.

you can't really compare sales of the n900 to the iphone. Apple have but a single mobile device and it's heavily subsidized. With just one mobile device, they are able to focus more attention on it. Nokia make thousands of different phone and are constantly testing different types of phone. It is a double-edge sword for big companies like Nokia because they made phones for various level of users and thus they must divide their research into all of them.

And 100k within 5 weeks does make more sense.

Okay, Quim's number isn't a hard sales number, but how does pointing to a figure that implies sales were better than "100,000 in five months" count as Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt? How is "Initial Published Sales Estimate for N900 Was Suspiciously Low" intentionally damaging to Nokia, the N900, Maemo, or the community?

Actually I don't think you can read qgil's statement that way.

He's probably a bit outside his work description with discussing this, so he'd possibly not want to provide real numbers even if he knew them. Not his numbers to talk about.

Instead, he pointed at a download ratio of 110 apps per sold device. Pointing out a download ratio of 110 apps per sold device including those who just bought a phone, is in my eyes pointing out that the numbers cannot be right.

Either he was bragging about hyperactive owners or he was saying the numbers were wrong. That he pulled out of the discussion says he was talking about sales numbers and not the active community members.

So, I don't think at all you can read this as "revealing". I read this as "pointing out obvious flaws", and anyhooo we can't draw a conclusion either way based on a few words.

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A word in general:

I think we should be very careful to alienate the Nokia representatives in here, because while we often disagree with their business decisions, they are a very valuable asset to this community in that they're allowed some slack and can give us some information not found elsewhere. We should listen to what they let out, analyze it and overanalyze it... But we shouldn't let something a single individual hints at be regarded as more than hints. They can be wrong too, and we can't expect to hold Nokia responsible if someone like qgil says "MeeGo will come to the N900" and the future shows that means "Nokia will allow qwerty to port MeeGo to the N900 if he takes full responsibility for it".

Are these figures for independant downloads or will it cover mulitple downloads of the same item, updates, etc etc etc.

How many from extra's and how many from devel and testing?

on it's own 10 mill doesn't really mean much.

no ads?

there were viral videos, a street party in hong kong with monster n900's.

there was a fair bit of pushing.

From maemo.org:

Extras downloads
10 904 485

Update: While Nokia doesn't normally give out detailed sales figures per device, we've just been told that more than 100,000 N900s sold in the first five weeks -- not months -- globally.

Source: Engadget

thanks, but how does that number break down between the repositories?