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Originally Posted by fahadj2003
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2010-06-23
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Okay, when have Nokia stated they're not going to contiue support of the N900? No one here can truely no what is going on there and what is going to happen. When have Nokia, ever, suggested roadmaps for updates for any other handsets they've produced, why do you expect it now? Open source does not mean corporate transparency when it comes to product support.
The N900 has always been intended to be step 4/5 if you managed to buy the product, without seeing that, then you didn't look hard enough. It's mentioned every where.
Rather than ***** about Nokia support and the apparent N900 apocolypse you all seem so sure has happened. Why can't you just request the functionality you require/need/cream-yourself-about, we have a good developer community that thrive on innovative ideas and in a lot of cases are looking for something interesting to do in our spare time (I for one).
It just seems extremely idiotic to me, that people talk about what Nokias plans are in regards to something they barely have any understanding of, both pre and post purchase. You're unhappy that the device doesn't do certain things you expected of it, okay you should have read the specs and seen it as a feature list rather than a few highlighted elements.
Stop crying, start contributing. We want ideas and innovation the N900 is a long way from being dead, you don't need to be a hacker. Your ideas and thoughts, if well formed and not rants will be accepted by the community with open handedness, afterall, that is what this community is about and has always been about.
We have always had to adapt around Nokias corporate policies, it's not new. With the N900 we do it less.
P.S. To me, the N900 is like a dot-to-dot picture, we can sketch in whatever wonderful details and colours we choose. No other handset allows this, you want feature "X", lets do it, but show every other vendor and Nokia how it should be done.
Tom
The N900 has always been intended to be step 4/5 if you managed to buy the product, without seeing that, then you didn't look hard enough. It's mentioned every where.
Rather than ***** about Nokia support and the apparent N900 apocolypse you all seem so sure has happened. Why can't you just request the functionality you require/need/cream-yourself-about, we have a good developer community that thrive on innovative ideas and in a lot of cases are looking for something interesting to do in our spare time (I for one).
It just seems extremely idiotic to me, that people talk about what Nokias plans are in regards to something they barely have any understanding of, both pre and post purchase. You're unhappy that the device doesn't do certain things you expected of it, okay you should have read the specs and seen it as a feature list rather than a few highlighted elements.
Stop crying, start contributing. We want ideas and innovation the N900 is a long way from being dead, you don't need to be a hacker. Your ideas and thoughts, if well formed and not rants will be accepted by the community with open handedness, afterall, that is what this community is about and has always been about.
We have always had to adapt around Nokias corporate policies, it's not new. With the N900 we do it less.
P.S. To me, the N900 is like a dot-to-dot picture, we can sketch in whatever wonderful details and colours we choose. No other handset allows this, you want feature "X", lets do it, but show every other vendor and Nokia how it should be done.
Tom
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2010-06-23
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mate - ignore everyone else on this thread and just know this:
IF you are not happy with the N900 as it is NOW (i.e. you are disappointed if there is NO MORE FUTURE support from Nokia OR from the community from today onwards) then SELL the N900 and get another phone which is actively supported by its parent company.
Otherwise you will be constantly disappointed and unhappy with your phone which you . Might as well bite the bullet now while you still have some resale value to get a phone that DOES serve your needs.
At the moment, the N900 is NOT Nokia's priority (in fact it is at its very bottom of its priorities) - while Nokia has not officially "abandoned" the N900, based on past behaviour (ask any n8xx and n7xx owner) and its current behaviour of absolute silence on missing features/support (flash 10, Ovi store, Ovi maps etc) and future updates, it is pretty much clear that the phone has now gone into the community's hands (see Meego port) for future support.
If you need a phone that "just works" with many of the consumer phone features you listed, then the N900 is NOT the phone for you - this is a phone for hackers/coders/technical ppl who like to spend time tinkering/fixing/overclocking their phones. i.e. if you dont like reflashing your phone or tinkering around with the terminal etc, then this phone is not for you.
Instead , SELL your N900 and consider other brands of phones which do provide the features you need and is actively supported by its parent company; consider any monetary loss as a lesson that corporate spin (ESPECIALLY from NOKIA in the future) is not to be trusted.
Note: This is not your fault - Nokia's marketing spin on this phone has been very deceptive (I bought it on the "internet multimedia tablet" premise only to now find flash 10.1 is most likely not coming, which blocks me from accessing many services, such as google street view, on the web in the future).
Just consider this a lesson and move on. Life is too short to be do otherwise.
IF you are not happy with the N900 as it is NOW (i.e. you are disappointed if there is NO MORE FUTURE support from Nokia OR from the community from today onwards) then SELL the N900 and get another phone which is actively supported by its parent company.
Otherwise you will be constantly disappointed and unhappy with your phone which you . Might as well bite the bullet now while you still have some resale value to get a phone that DOES serve your needs.
At the moment, the N900 is NOT Nokia's priority (in fact it is at its very bottom of its priorities) - while Nokia has not officially "abandoned" the N900, based on past behaviour (ask any n8xx and n7xx owner) and its current behaviour of absolute silence on missing features/support (flash 10, Ovi store, Ovi maps etc) and future updates, it is pretty much clear that the phone has now gone into the community's hands (see Meego port) for future support.
If you need a phone that "just works" with many of the consumer phone features you listed, then the N900 is NOT the phone for you - this is a phone for hackers/coders/technical ppl who like to spend time tinkering/fixing/overclocking their phones. i.e. if you dont like reflashing your phone or tinkering around with the terminal etc, then this phone is not for you.
Instead , SELL your N900 and consider other brands of phones which do provide the features you need and is actively supported by its parent company; consider any monetary loss as a lesson that corporate spin (ESPECIALLY from NOKIA in the future) is not to be trusted.
Note: This is not your fault - Nokia's marketing spin on this phone has been very deceptive (I bought it on the "internet multimedia tablet" premise only to now find flash 10.1 is most likely not coming, which blocks me from accessing many services, such as google street view, on the web in the future).
Just consider this a lesson and move on. Life is too short to be do otherwise.
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2010-06-23
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@Frappacino - This is not the 770 or either of the N8x0 series. It has sold so many more than those devices, it was pushed because they believe in the product. It has recently been officially released in China and India, because they still believe in the device. Stop guessing at Nokia's intentions and spreading FUD, it's not productive at all.
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2010-06-23
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I still miss some very important features on my N900: it really sucks as a can opener, and it doesn't do coffee!
Yes, it doesn't have the ability to use different ringtones for different callers. I miss this feature a little, but it is not critical for me. When I talked with other people about the phone and mentioned these missing features, most of them weren't really bothered by this (or, as one of my friends put it: I'm more worried about being able to know it is my own phone ringing, and not someone else's).
The funny thing is, some of the missing features people complain about are things that top-of-the-line iPhones still can't do, and nobody really cares. iPhones cannot take pictures while making a phone-call. The don't have this little feature called multi-tasking. I can listen to music while walking and counting my steps with the pedometer, and occasionally browse the web, and all this while skype is running in the background. In the meanwhile, even with iOS4, iPhones and its long promised "multi-tasking" (sorta) feature, you still cannot run skype in the background while doing something else, at least not until there's a new version of skype that uses iOS4's "sorta-multi-tasking" ability.
And just to make it clear: I'm not trying to argue that iPhone is an inferior product. It is a fine product that really fits what some people need, but not me. I'm talking about the iPhone just as a point of reference, to point out that even this device doesn't do a lot of things people used to do with their old phones, and for some reason I don't hear as many complaints about it.
The Nokia N900 got its pluses and minuses, just like any other device. Personally, for me its pluses far outweigh its minuses and I wouldn't replace it with any other device on the market today. But to each its own.
Yes, it doesn't have the ability to use different ringtones for different callers. I miss this feature a little, but it is not critical for me. When I talked with other people about the phone and mentioned these missing features, most of them weren't really bothered by this (or, as one of my friends put it: I'm more worried about being able to know it is my own phone ringing, and not someone else's).
The funny thing is, some of the missing features people complain about are things that top-of-the-line iPhones still can't do, and nobody really cares. iPhones cannot take pictures while making a phone-call. The don't have this little feature called multi-tasking. I can listen to music while walking and counting my steps with the pedometer, and occasionally browse the web, and all this while skype is running in the background. In the meanwhile, even with iOS4, iPhones and its long promised "multi-tasking" (sorta) feature, you still cannot run skype in the background while doing something else, at least not until there's a new version of skype that uses iOS4's "sorta-multi-tasking" ability.
And just to make it clear: I'm not trying to argue that iPhone is an inferior product. It is a fine product that really fits what some people need, but not me. I'm talking about the iPhone just as a point of reference, to point out that even this device doesn't do a lot of things people used to do with their old phones, and for some reason I don't hear as many complaints about it.
The Nokia N900 got its pluses and minuses, just like any other device. Personally, for me its pluses far outweigh its minuses and I wouldn't replace it with any other device on the market today. But to each its own.
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2010-06-25
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Originally Posted by nosa101
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it was fixed in the next firmware, yes but it took 3 months
and they called off support, isnt that the reason why we may not get flash 10?
nokia working with intel on meego.. meego for n900 DUH
the nokia is taking part in the development but the support isnt official
so the delevopment will take time, if it was official, they'll have the drivers already
yes, meego-harmattan, thats what i was refering to when i said called off support
and oh, fyi, there are multiple companies working on it.. even bmw.. the origins are from nokia and intel.. contribution is from many companies
no it doesnt, havent been proven yet and the chip is capable of going upto 1ghz..
otherwise, it would have burned out already.. thats almost double
builtin as in with the firmware.. installed isnt builtin
qt?
voice navigations isnt in graphic ui
and they already got turn by turn navigation
fMMS is not builtin!!
and oh.. u dont use it, i do..
and others do..
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2010-06-25
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Originally Posted by tswindell
drivers for NIToid or whatever and meego..
Okay, when have Nokia stated they're not going to contiue support of the N900? No one here can truely no what is going on there and what is going to happen. When have Nokia, ever, suggested roadmaps for updates for any other handsets they've produced, why do you expect it now? Open source does not mean corporate transparency when it comes to product support.
The N900 has always been intended to be step 4/5 if you managed to buy the product, without seeing that, then you didn't look hard enough. It's mentioned every where.
Rather than ***** about Nokia support and the apparent N900 apocolypse you all seem so sure has happened. Why can't you just request the functionality you require/need/cream-yourself-about, we have a good developer community that thrive on innovative ideas and in a lot of cases are looking for something interesting to do in our spare time (I for one).
It just seems extremely idiotic to me, that people talk about what Nokias plans are in regards to something they barely have any understanding of, both pre and post purchase. You're unhappy that the device doesn't do certain things you expected of it, okay you should have read the specs and seen it as a feature list rather than a few highlighted elements.
Stop crying, start contributing. We want ideas and innovation the N900 is a long way from being dead, you don't need to be a hacker. Your ideas and thoughts, if well formed and not rants will be accepted by the community with open handedness, afterall, that is what this community is about and has always been about.
We have always had to adapt around Nokias corporate policies, it's not new. With the N900 we do it less.
P.S. To me, the N900 is like a dot-to-dot picture, we can sketch in whatever wonderful details and colours we choose. No other handset allows this, you want feature "X", lets do it, but show every other vendor and Nokia how it should be done.
Tom
can u develop them?
go ahead.. contribute..
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2010-06-25
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Originally Posted by Frappacino
thats what i'm talking bout mate..
mate - ignore everyone else on this thread and just know this:
IF you are not happy with the N900 as it is NOW (i.e. you are disappointed if there is NO MORE FUTURE support from Nokia OR from the community from today onwards) then SELL the N900 and get another phone which is actively supported by its parent company.
Otherwise you will be constantly disappointed and unhappy with your phone which you . Might as well bite the bullet now while you still have some resale value to get a phone that DOES serve your needs.
At the moment, the N900 is NOT Nokia's priority (in fact it is at its very bottom of its priorities) - while Nokia has not officially "abandoned" the N900, based on past behaviour (ask any n8xx and n7xx owner) and its current behaviour of absolute silence on missing features/support (flash 10, Ovi store, Ovi maps etc) and future updates, it is pretty much clear that the phone has now gone into the community's hands (see Meego port) for future support.
If you need a phone that "just works" with many of the consumer phone features you listed, then the N900 is NOT the phone for you - this is a phone for hackers/coders/technical ppl who like to spend time tinkering/fixing/overclocking their phones. i.e. if you dont like reflashing your phone or tinkering around with the terminal etc, then this phone is not for you.
Instead , SELL your N900 and consider other brands of phones which do provide the features you need and is actively supported by its parent company; consider any monetary loss as a lesson that corporate spin (ESPECIALLY from NOKIA in the future) is not to be trusted.
Note: This is not your fault - Nokia's marketing spin on this phone has been very deceptive (I bought it on the "internet multimedia tablet" premise only to now find flash 10.1 is most likely not coming, which blocks me from accessing many services, such as google street view, on the web in the future).
Just consider this a lesson and move on. Life is too short to be do otherwise.
nokia calls off support or gives low piority to old products..
and sell it off aint an option.. it'll go off for lesser than half the price i bought it for.. -__-
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Originally Posted by tswindell
doesnt matter, they do the same to all the mobiles
@Frappacino - This is not the 770 or either of the N8x0 series. It has sold so many more than those devices, it was pushed because they believe in the product. It has recently been officially released in China and India, because they still believe in the device. Stop guessing at Nokia's intentions and spreading FUD, it's not productive at all.
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2010-06-25
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Originally Posted by sela
fun part bout iphone, if the os gets an update, all the models get it too.. only things that are not added are hardware limitations..
I still miss some very important features on my N900: it really sucks as a can opener, and it doesn't do coffee!
Yes, it doesn't have the ability to use different ringtones for different callers. I miss this feature a little, but it is not critical for me. When I talked with other people about the phone and mentioned these missing features, most of them weren't really bothered by this (or, as one of my friends put it: I'm more worried about being able to know it is my own phone ringing, and not someone else's).
The funny thing is, some of the missing features people complain about are things that top-of-the-line iPhones still can't do, and nobody really cares. iPhones cannot take pictures while making a phone-call. The don't have this little feature called multi-tasking. I can listen to music while walking and counting my steps with the pedometer, and occasionally browse the web, and all this while skype is running in the background. In the meanwhile, even with iOS4, iPhones and its long promised "multi-tasking" (sorta) feature, you still cannot run skype in the background while doing something else, at least not until there's a new version of skype that uses iOS4's "sorta-multi-tasking" ability.
And just to make it clear: I'm not trying to argue that iPhone is an inferior product. It is a fine product that really fits what some people need, but not me. I'm talking about the iPhone just as a point of reference, to point out that even this device doesn't do a lot of things people used to do with their old phones, and for some reason I don't hear as many complaints about it.
The Nokia N900 got its pluses and minuses, just like any other device. Personally, for me its pluses far outweigh its minuses and I wouldn't replace it with any other device on the market today. But to each its own.
like 3g and 3gs