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take my advice..
search the forum for a related app and pm the developer
threads are mostly the least efficient and most useless way
*experience says so*

Update: Sorry I haven't posted but I saw really no point to post without any news or proof of what I am doing.

It is unlikely that I will be able to port the actual BB Messenger it self, although it is in fact possible, but as people mentioned earlier, legal constraints get in the way. And in no way am I doing or encouraging anything illegal.

However the best option is to make a port of PingChat or Whatsapp which have alot of users on BB's as well as iPhone, Android and many Nokia Smartphones.

I am currently in correspondance with the developers of these apps, I have emailed my suggestions and design ideas to them and am awaiting on their part for a decision to permit me to have their source codes and go ahead with this project.

This is in no way a confirmation of anything, but this is the current stage where I'm at right now. So I thought it would be useful to post a little update.

Regardless of the difficulties and hurdles, I will port such an app for Maemo OS, even if I have to re-write it fully from scratch. I'm not trying to give anyone false hope, but my intentions are strong.

I admire your drive and enthusiasm, and I hope you succeed with what you are trying to do. Good luck.

Hi guys,
ive tried to contact the PingChat developers.

Me

Hi PingChat,

is it possible that you port the PinChat application in QT? Symbian^3 is coming out, also Meego of moblin and nokia, en there are many n900 users using maemo.
All those operating systems are running QT. Its just an idea?

I would very preciate it, if you take action.

With kind regards,

maemo/Android/meego user

Answerr of PinhChat;

We don't have plans to support Symbian yet.

me again

not only symbian, but maemo and meego for example.. there are alot people ( developers ) on www.maemo.org community that knows QT, CI++ and much more languages to port the app. but the app is closed.
So they cant manage to port it. Thats the reason why im asking you if you can port it ?

with kind regards,

Answerr PingChat

Sorry, but we don't have plans for that yet.


So we can forget PingChat...

I think we could better concentrate on Whatsapp. Or the real BB messenger

hmmm, let me guys explain why BlackBerry is famous..

BlackBerry uses a unique type of encryption that is only decrypted on the sending and receiving end, and what a BB server does is just verify the BB pin and pass through whatever data it is to be transmitted. (Thats why some countries ban BB services)


From another point of view, BB should be used for its encryption purposes at first place, but since RIM starting giving out its cypher to some governments , business men started having other ideas.

So the concept basically is, each BB has a unique PIN, and this PIN is tunneled directly through BB server to RIM servers (Thats why BB packages are different from Data packages), and once packets are received at RIM, BB pin is verified through the packet headers (Go through OSI model to get more clarification), and from RIM packets are routed to their designations.

After all it is a bit complicated process, but it is useful for business men who seek privacy.

I don't think most of you here are considered about RIM's privacy, you are mostly concerned about the BBM itself, statistics say 90% of BB owners use other messengers (ie msn, yahoo ....), okay, so what can you do if you want to chat with BBM owners? use a cross platform application!

How can we do that? Use "pidgin messenger"

Concerned about your privacy? "Pidgin provides encryption, that not even superman can break public and private keys"

If you want to know more about these security issues, read about digital signs, private and public keys.

After all my idea is, you can make a virtual device to act like a BB, and actually get a BB pin, but most probably this is going to be working only for the outbound traffic, not the inbound. Just my 2 cents

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Ahmad Alsayegh

my girlfriend has a blackberry, it's kind of like a very fast n95 with a bigger screen. Their BBM thing is pretty much all they've got as far as carrots on sticks go...

thats the reason why we should port an app like whatsapp, wich is used by iphone users and bb users..

For instant message encryption, i would go with OTR

Why should I use a phone-specific proprietary application with a proprietary protocol and annual fees, not delivered with any OS/device, when we already have built-in support for standards-based protocols supported by multiple platforms (XMPP) in use by large companies and sites (Facebook, Google), and supported natively by a number of OSs and devices.

For Blackberry users, maybe Googletalk is the best option, however it doesn't seem to have encryption support (but, neither does telepathy).

For other phones without any XMPP support, maybe talkonout

Have a look at the availability of XMPP-only clients and look at how many multi-protocol IM clients support XMPP.

Now, maybe some features are missing, but it would be *much* more worthwhile to look at getting better features (e.g. file transfer, encryption - all available on other XMPP clients) into telepathy on N900 than having *one* additional proprietary chat application/protocol supported. In the meantime, you can use pidgin on your N900 for some features.

BTW., I have been using Jabber on my mobile phone since 2004, on a Nokia 6600 with MobileMessenger over GPRS.

If you're paranoid, run your own jabber server, and only allow TLS-encrypted connections to it.

Before suggesting alternative IM's, I'd suggest to familiarize yourself with BBM's features first.
There's a reason that people are asking for the BBM specifically.

(prediction: rather than read up about BBM on their own, people will just (rudely) ask and challenge by saying things like "What's so great about BBM anyway?!?! Proof it!!!")