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sherifnix is offline sherifnix
2007-06-24 , 19:44
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Rider... its a 3.5 inch screen, and unlike the N800 (for now) it has a very smooth scaling and scrolling mechanism.

I do have faith that Nokia will step up the refresh rate on our tablets, so that should help a bit when doing heavy scrolling.
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2007-06-24 , 20:00
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Originally Posted by sherifnix View Post
Rider... its a 3.5 inch screen, and unlike the N800 (for now) it has a very smooth scaling and scrolling mechanism.
Actually, the "optimized view" of the N800 opera has also very smooth and clever scaling. Not sure if the iPhone has something similar.

One should note that the iPhone has not much more than half of the resolution of the N800. This makes a big difference. Even if the handling, as the Apple demonstration video shows, is very slick, you don't want to scroll forward and backward all the time just to be able to watch some web page. It is very clumsy in the long run.

I can imagine the iPhone is a fine gadget for quick and short internet usage. Like checking (not writing) your mails, check a stock quote or the weather. But I doubt that more sophisticated interaction is really viable. I wouldn't want to do some internet banking with such a small screen.

What people will do with the iphone is: phone , SMS/short mails, listen to music, maybe watch a video or youtube. Not much more I suppose.
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2007-06-24 , 20:14
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Originally Posted by Rider View Post
One should note that the iPhone has not much more than half of the resolution of the N800. This makes a big difference.
In fact, the iPhone's (<spit!>) screen resolution is less than half of the N800's.

iPhone (<spit!>): 480x320
N800: 800x480

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2007-06-24 , 20:54
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens View Post
In fact, the iPhone's (<spit!>) screen resolution is less than half of the N800's.

iPhone (<spit!>): 480x320
N800: 800x480

Boojah!
Yep, you are right, Karel

I suggest that everybody here makes a test: Resize your browser to 480x320 and then start browsing and scrolling, and see how long it will be that you are heavily annoyed.

Oh yes, I just read another disadvantage of the iPhone: while it has bluetooth, a BT GPS mouse cannot be connected. Happy google mapping then
 
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2007-06-24 , 21:11
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Originally Posted by Rider View Post
Yep, you are right, Karel

I suggest that everybody here makes a test: Resize your browser to 480x320 and then start browsing and scrolling, and see how long it will be that you are heavily annoyed.

Oh yes, I just read another disadvantage of the iPhone: while it has bluetooth, a BT GPS mouse cannot be connected. Happy google mapping then

You act as though the N800 made full screen scrolling possible. Here's a clue for you. The iPhone is a PHONE. It has internet capabilities, and a few other features that the N800 can not come close to matching, and guess what? It has a phone. How about this, turn off the BT and wifi on your N800 and go to www.cnn.com. Write back and let us know how long it took you to get there. In case you missed it, the iPhone is a phone/media device while the N800 is, well, uhhhh a device (sort of).
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2007-06-24 , 21:19
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WOW. All this consumer market, consumer device talk... It could easily be a consumer market product, but people are just plain right lazy, they so stuck in their own little bubble, the america way... the fast lane, fast food etc. Use your brain consumer market people, we all have one. It doesn't take a life time to learn the N800 and basic functions of Linux. I could teach my girlfriend the mer basics of Linux and bash commands but I know she wouldn't care to learn it, its the american way for most people...LAZY!! - even if the N800 was comparable and better they still wouldn't learn it. Mentality: I'm going to limited my knowledge just because everything has been spoon fed to me already. Mmmm Fast food - quick gratification. Go get your spell checker and point and click mass/consumer market. this world is getting dumber and dumber and lazier and lazier. sorry, the truth hurts a little. Go ride a bicycle fat a*s.
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2007-06-24 , 21:35
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Not sure to whom you where directing your comment at however, have you stopped to consider that many people purchase these devices to work out of the box. It has nothing to do with learning the device, but just the fact of using it. People have more on their minds than wanting to learn SSH, or BASH. In my case it has nothing to do with learning Linux or the N800, I simply do not have the time or the inclination. I have quite a bit of technical stuff (AN-GSC 39, or AN-FSC 78, Scream 50/100) in my daily life, and the last thing I need is a crash prone (used to be), user unfriendly (sorry the truth hurts here as well), application anemic (depends on what you view as important) device. I need something that works (for the most part) out of the box.
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2007-06-24 , 22:01
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Of course it's nice to have a shell, to have ssh, VNC and other more sophisticated things.

But they are not necessary to operate the N800. Even if I know Linux/Unix better than English, I'm not too keen to have a shell on my N800. And most people perfectly live without it too.

The iPhone is certainly a nice device. Less heavy compared to a N800+simple mobile phone. And just one charger. But what you can basically do with an iPhone is much less than what you can do with an N800. You are much more limited regarding applications, its smallish screen which is good for WAP, but not WWW.

Does the iPhone have a pdf-viewer? I believe not. Big drawback, how do you read your ebooks then? But even if it had one, the small screen resolution would again be the obstacle.
 
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2007-06-24 , 22:12
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Does the iPhone have a pdf-viewer? I believe not. Big drawback, how do you read your ebooks then? But even if it had one, the small screen resolution would again be the obstacle.
I think they are hoping you buy audiobooks instead.
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2007-06-24 , 22:14
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Originally Posted by Rider View Post
Of course it's nice to have a shell, to have ssh, VNC and other more sophisticated things.

But they are not necessary to operate the N800. Even if I know Linux/Unix better than English, I'm not too keen to have a shell on my N800. And most people perfectly live without it too.

The iPhone is certainly a nice device. Less heavy compared to a N800+simple mobile phone. And just one charger. But what you can basically do with an iPhone is much less than what you can do with an N800. You are much more limited regarding applications, its smallish screen which is good for WAP, but not WWW.

Does the iPhone have a pdf-viewer? I believe not. Big drawback, how do you read your ebooks then? But even if it had one, the small screen resolution would again be the obstacle.
It has pdf, excel, word and ppt viewers. The browser itself is more refined and feature filled than mobile opera.
 
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