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Originally Posted by naabi
Exactly. So people overreacting about Elop having stock is bothersome. It's not like the board of directors didn't know it.
If you recruit a top manager from MS it's obvious that he has loads of shares, not even a question whether he has those. Common policy is to sell those when leaving to new position.
I've been trying to say many times in this thread that he managed to sell 60% of his shares, but right after he joined Nokia, he was registered as MS insider. He had to stop selling. This is what Nokia has told today. Now that big strategic changes have been published, he can continue selling. It could have been handled better, but making some conspiracy theories (not blaming you here) is just plain stupid.
Oh well... I give up.
Yep... Elop was a test tube melange of Gates, Ballmer, Allen and some other North American influence - Satan perhaps? - that was planted by some 15 year plot hatched by the anti-christ and the anti-pope to thwart the spread of the open source goodness that is Linux, Maemo, MeeGo and we should all join in signing random petitions online, sit around here, make up even better reasons why we should damn near (online) riot and perhaps plan our first N900 flash mob around Elop's world tour of his Lazarus pits that he shares with Ra's al Ghul and perhaps Batman.
I can so sleep better at night now.
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Originally Posted by maluka
Well, that is the core of the problem. Nokia being unable to slim down and increase efficiency in a natural way. If Symbian is so hard to develop that only a handful understands it, then employing 2000 to work on it is not going to help much.
I can tell you that people in Finland are mad as hell about this. The government seems unlikely to do anything about it beyond helping the 20 000 people who will lose their jobs find new jobs. It's almost 0.5% of the population that will be jobless soon.
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2011-02-13
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Originally Posted by geneven
I guess what it comes down to is, out of the whole market, Nokia is the only company with a record of being able and willing to deliver the mobile devices that most meets our needs and wants (why else would we be here?). As it stands today, if Nokia is no longer willing to do that, there aren't really any viable alternatives.
My main interest is I bought some devices from Nokia (N800, N810 and N900) and want to continue buying similar devices. Besides that, I don't care if Nokia goes down the tubes or becomes Queen of the May.
Frankly, as sad as it sounds, I'm having trouble coping with the idea of a mobile future where there isn't a single manufacturer seeking to meet my needs as a consumer. I've invested nearly 6 years of my time and energy into the Nokia open source endeavor once called Maemo and seeing it tossed aside for MeeGo was hard enough, but now seeing all hope of a friendly open source future in mobile technology now set back by years (or destroyed) . . . well, it hurts.
It's only logical that people would seek explain the how and the why of such a world-shaking decision. It wouldn't be so bad if we had choices, but, without Nokia, we really don't.
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Well, we still have to see what Intel is planing to bring forward in this area. But, yes. Right now things look bleak. I may just have to settle for Android.
I guess what it comes down to is, out of the whole market, Nokia is the only company with a record of being able and willing to deliver the mobile devices that most meets our needs and wants (why else would we be here?). As it stands today, if Nokia is no longer willing to do that, there aren't really any viable alternatives.
Frankly, as sad as it sounds, I'm having trouble coping with the idea of a mobile future where there isn't a single manufacturer seeking to meet my needs as a consumer. I've invested nearly 6 years of my time and energy into the Nokia open source endeavor once called Maemo and seeing it tossed aside for MeeGo was hard enough, but now seeing all hope of a friendly open source future in mobile technology now set back by years (or destroyed) . . . well, it hurts.
It's only logical that people would seek explain the how and the why of such a world-shaking decision. It wouldn't be so bad if we had choices, but, without Nokia, we really don't.
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2011-02-13
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Originally Posted by 9000
Wow. That was scary accurate!
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2011-02-13
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I just don't believe that this Openey Sourcey stuff will die whatever Nokia does. It will create a disruption and a vacuum that will be filled. Open Source is just too seductive of an idea. I hope that Nokia will soon be seen as an evil link that was holding things back. Oh well, there are no guarantees.
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2011-02-13
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Originally Posted by geneven
Well it is quite simple:
Why are there so many people on this site so interested in Nokia's proper business strategy and apparently so uninterested in things like maemo.org or even internettablettalk?
My main interest is I bought some devices from Nokia (N800, N810 and N900) and want to continue buying similar devices. Besides that, I don't care if Nokia goes down the tubes or becomes Queen of the May.
There would be no maemo.org or internettablettalk without Nokia (ie. Maemo devices). Should be obvious, IMHO.
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As I said previously, I don't believe it's these shares that have dictated the bend-over in front of Microsoft. But the link fron this post does make me wonder...
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