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2014-04-23
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#52
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Originally Posted by marxian
I'm sorry, you're completely right on this one.
Practically zero R&D and software development costs? What these Android device manufacturers are doing is the smartphone equivalent of LEGO.
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2014-04-23
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Originally Posted by herpderp
Well, I don't care if its LEGOs if it serves it's purpose. I would look at it as entering an era of modularity. Let me add, I took my N900 out of its box to make photo of collected devices for another thread here and was struck at how beautifully it was designed. Even the large box it came was impressive. I hope it is not true but one of my first thoughts about it was Those days are gone...
I'm sorry, you're completely right on this one.
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2014-04-23
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#54
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Originally Posted by mscion
Anyway, Sailfish on N9 and Nexus 4 are very useful for developers without real Jolla smartphone, and users wanting to test Sailfish OS in everyday use. Both my case, I bought Nexus 4 just to test new Android versions, Ubuntu Touch and now Sailfish OS will remain installed.
Of course with the caveat, for now, that you don't need Bluetooth, NFC, GPS, maps. Also can't run Android apps if you are so inclined... Just sayin'
Originally Posted by mscion
It depends on :
@recolistete: Btw, do you think there will be an easy debian (or equivalent) for Jolla. Also appreciate all the nice work you have done.
- XWayland being ported to Sailfish;
- or some Linux ARM distribution (Debian, etc) being ported to Wayland.
No time frame for both options.
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Python, C/C++, Qt and CAS developer. For Maemo/MeeGo/Sailfish :
Integral, Derivative, Limit - calculating mathematical integrals, derivatives and limits. SymPy - Computer Algebra System.
MatPlotLib - 2D & 3D plots in Python. IPython - Python interactive shell.
-- My blog about mobile & scientific computing ---
Sailfish : Sony Xperia X, Gemini, Jolla, Jolla C, Jolla Tablet, Nexus 4. Nokia N9, N900, N810.
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2014-04-23
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#55
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Originally Posted by mscion
If anything, things are heading in exactly the opposite direction. Features that could previously be taken for granted are being removed to introduce planned obsolescence and make the consumer more dependent upon the manufacturer. It's more like an era of assimilation. One identikit fondleslab after another. Different platform, different 'ecosystem', same post-iPhone paradigm, same shite.
Well, I don't care if its LEGOs if it serves it's purpose. I would look at it as entering an era of modularity.
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2014-04-23
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#56
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Originally Posted by marxian
Not necessarily, have you seen project Ara?
If anything, things are heading in exactly the opposite direction.
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2014-04-23
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Originally Posted by marxian
Gee, I dunno, your post makes me think the world is coming to an end. And to make things worse there is no cuteTube for my Jolla phone....
If anything, things are heading in exactly the opposite direction. Features that could previously be taken for granted are being removed to introduce planned obsolescence and make the consumer more dependent upon the manufacturer. It's more like an era of assimilation. One identikit fondleslab after another. Different platform, different 'ecosystem', same post-iPhone paradigm, same shite.
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2014-04-23
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Good Artists Copy. Great Artists Steal...Did you say lego...
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2014-04-25
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#59
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Originally Posted by herpderp
I dare-say the founders have far better connections into the silicon industry there, prolly able to secure a "quit pro quo" on a set no. of units for a way more reasonable price, for starters.
It's a company not being backed by a major manufacturer, bringing out a killer specced phone, for less than the Jolla.
We always got the argument for the Jolla's inferior specs that it's a small company. How exactly is OnePlus any better in this regard? How could they do this, and Jolla couldn't?
Also, we don't know how much $ they had at their disposal, they may have been flushed with way more than what Jolla had (despite their 1st CEO stupidly hinting they had heaps in the pipeline).
VC's big over there in recent years, lots of $ flying around for start-ups, there's still a misconception that China's all poor people, it has a phenomenal no of millionaires/billionaire nowadays.
Originally Posted by herpderp
Yup, & they're seemingly moving at a more rigorous pace in term of hw augmentation than Jolla ever has*, as far as Jolla's concerned, that whole area's been mostly a non-event so far, sadly.
Not necessarily, have you seen project Ara?
Then again, the big co's bank rolling Ara could lose interest in ~12mth & dump the entire thing after all the good work that's been done, Jolla (so long as it can survive) will be there for the long haul.
*I'm a very light contributor on their user feedback program
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2014-04-25
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Originally Posted by rcolistete
Debian already has Wayland support. See for example the Maynard desktop for Raspberry Pi.
Anyway, Sailfish on N9 and Nexus 4 are very useful for developers without real Jolla smartphone, and users wanting to test Sailfish OS in everyday use. Both my case, I bought Nexus 4 just to test new Android versions, Ubuntu Touch and now Sailfish OS will remain installed.
It depends on :
- XWayland being ported to Sailfish;
- or some Linux ARM distribution (Debian, etc) being ported to Wayland.
No time frame for both options.
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@recolistete: Btw, do you think there will be an easy debian (or equivalent) for Jolla. Also appreciate all the nice work you have done.