Will centipede, dig dug, pac man, stargate, tempest and every other arcade game that made money from the 80's and 90's get ignored?

Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_HXUhShhmY
and
blublu.org
stop motion animation

Errr ... no they dont have to.

There is nothing preventing that on Maemo. AFAIK you are free to install XFCE, KDE or any other environment your hacking heart desires (and suffer the integration problems that brings).

The trouble is that here people expect the opposite of what you say - they do NOT want just working components (which is precisely what the officially announced Qt4.6 gives you and were perceived as 'bandaids' by some in this very thread), but want an uncompromising Maemo 6 in it's fullest. That's the problem. New/prospective N900 owners without the linux/tech background are more likely to think in black and white - I get Maemo 6 and all will be dandy, or I don't get Maemo 6 and the N900 is brick and Nokia sucks. The reality is, however, that neither of those statements is true, but that is a message people don't (want to) hear.

Hello all, my n900 arrived yesterday and my first post here.

I like my shiny new n900, but it must be said it is missing a lot from what I'd expect a modern phone to have. In fact, it's missing a lot from what ancient phones had, and budget models too. Other than a brief flirtation with Sony Ericsson, all my handsets have been Nokia. In the drawer beside me I have 4 Nokia handsets reaching back to the 3210, and that was the last Nokia phone I had which didnt have mms. I've only had the phone for a day, but there are a lot of bugs and features missing that you'd expect in 2010 - but there's no point going over that old ground again. Some of them I knew about before I bought it, and some were an unpleasant surprise. My hope is that Nokia will support fixes for these.

I must say, since visiting maemo.org my faith in Nokia has been shaken. It does feel like everything is on hold until the next maemo release, but like one of the nasty kids from Willy Wonka's chocolate factory I want them now. There's a guy called Andre Klapper on here, I suspect in real life I would like him. I'd enjoy sitting down for a pint with him and listening to him talk about all he knows. But right now due to the internet I hate him. Every bug report I read that he has labelled "invalid" or "wont fix" or otherwise 'learn to lump it lol' is like a dagger in my Nokia loving heart. I actually googled his name to see what he looks like, so in my brain I could have a better image of my nemesis. He has one of them little devil beards, a blonde one no less, so now whenever I see him dismissing the next frustrating bug as 'invalid' I'll imagine grabbing those tufts and tugging it off his chin.

I suspect there won't be much improvement now until maemo 6, it's not so far away and all resources will now be focused on it. However I do think we'll get some version of it on our n900. In the meantime we'll have to grit our teeth and bear the frustrating scroll or the glitchy UI, in the hope of better things to come. Or, maybe some bright spark in the community will be able to come up with something in the meantime. But this project needs to be Nokia driven. I see a hungry Google pushing Android, Apple continuing to improve the iPhone, Nokia are still putting all their weight behind Symbian (the same managers plotting Nokia's future direction are probably the same who have to justify the cost of purchasing it ofcourse), and Andre Klapper's mean expression hovering over the future of Maemo, "invalid" stamp in hand, like the mean bank manager from "It's a wonderful life". Where's our George Bailey?

Now Im going to look for posts from that kathy girl who has all them pics of happy bears around the place, to help cheer me up.

remember the raw power arm cortex 8a

GENERAL 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100 / 900
Announced 2009, August
Status Available. Released 2009, November
SIZE Dimensions 110.9 x 59.8 x 18 mm, 113 cc
Weight 181 g
DISPLAY Type TFT resistive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 800 x 480 pixels, 3.5 inches
- Proximity sensor for auto turn-off
- Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate
- Full QWERTY keyboard
SOUND Alert types Vibration; MP3 ringtones
Speakerphone Yes, with stereo speakers
- 3.5 mm audio jack
MEMORY Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
Call records Detailed, max 30 days
Internal 32 GB storage, 256 MB RAM
Card slot microSD, up to 16GB, buy memory
DATA GPRS Class 32
EDGE Class 32
3G HSDPA, 10Mbps; HSUPA, 2Mbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g, DLNA
Bluetooth Yes, v2.1 with A2DP
Infrared port Yes
USB Yes, v2.0 microUSB
CAMERA Primary 5 MP, 2576x1936 pixels, Carl Zeiss optics, autofocus, Dual LED flash, video light
Features Geo-tagging
Video Yes, WVGA(848 x 480)@25fps
Secondary Yes, VGA
FEATURES OS Maemo 5
CPU ARM Cortex A8 600 MHz, PowerVR SGX graphics
Messaging SMS (threaded view), Email, Push Email, IM
Browser xHTML, HTML, RSS feeds
Radio Stereo FM radio (via third party software); FM transmitter
Games Yes, 5 + downloadable
Colors Black
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support; Ovi Maps
Java No
- Skype and GoogleTalk VoIP integration
- MP3/WMA/WAV/eAAC+ music player
- WMV/RealVideo/MP4/AVI/XviD/DivX video player
- TV-out
- PDF document viewer
- Photo editor
- Adobe Flash Player 9.4
BATTERY Standard battery, Li-Ion 1320 mAh (BL-5J)
Stand-by Up to 96 h
Talk time Up to 9 h (2G) / Up to 5 h (3G)
MISC SAR US 0.92 W/kg (head) 0.82 W/kg (body)
SAR EU 0.80 W/kg (head)

Really???

I've heard Rumor of a VP at the Nokia N-series project that may disagree with you.

Not totally true, at least for me.
Of course I'd like to see harmattan on the n900, but I'll survive happy and will not consider my new device a brick only if maemo5 will get upgrades and enhancements.
I'm speaking about ovi maps 3, umts/skype video calls, flash player upgrades, phone enhancements (like the easy differentiation of ringtones per group/user).
But it seems that ovi maps 3, for example, is scheduled for harmattan only, that's the only reason of my interest in this thread!

My2c.

Niko

what are the chances Mer will be compatible with Maemo 5 and Maemo 6 apps? Maybe the community can just ditch Maemo for Mer?

Not because of the person you mentioned, but yes, before Nokia get the finger out of its a** or even promote a spokes person tha that actually can stand behind his/hers words, N900 in my and whom ever actually wonders if this is a buy or rabbit-hole device should stay away. I did not get what i most honestly thought I bought.

No apps? I've had my N900 for a little over a week. In that time, the number of downloads at Maemo.org had grown by around 20. Even if these are all updates to software, that is still progess. Yes, there are no fart apps, or the other 10,000,000,000,000 or whatever junk apps iPhone has, but quite a few of those aren't needed as we have Flash on the N900. Thus we can go to the actual web page and not have to use an app. Not to sound nasty, but if all you want is something to show off to your friends, than the N900 possibly isn't for you.