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	daperl	2009-05-27 , 21:56
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Originally Posted by debudebu

i have an n800 that i got for $199. that's all i've spent. i don't have a cell phone or a data plan, and that's why i wanted this device. nearly two years later there is still no device for that price or less that i'd rather own. amazing. i like the specs on the new device, but i wouldn't use the 3g, and i still won't pay more than 150 or 200.

I just think this needs to be repeated.

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	totololo	2009-05-27 , 21:57
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for my part i had a loooot of PDAs.

- Palms : Zire1, Cliés SJ20, SJ30, NX70V, NX73V, NX80V, UX50, TH55, VZ 90, Palm TX
- Pocket PCs : Toshiba E310, Asus A620, A620 BT, Fujitsu Loox 720, Acer N310, Qtek 9000, HTC X7500, HTC Diamond Pro
- Some others : Zaurus 3100, 800, 860, NTT Sigmarion III, Newton 2000 & 2100 ... iPhone edge, iPhone 3G, Nokia E90, N800, N810

... Ok, i'm really insane ...

But the N800 & N810 are the BEST for eBook reading.
And Maemo is the BEST OS for a pocket device I ever used.
And N810 is the best hardware of all these PDAs, even if it's not perfect at all.

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	daperl	2009-05-27 , 21:58
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Originally Posted by totololo

for my part i had a loooot of PDAs.

- Palms : (Zire1, Cliés SJ20, SJ30, NX70V, NX73V, NX80V, UX50, VZ 90, Palm TX)
- Pocket PCs : Toshiba E310, Asus A620, A620 BT, Fujitsu Loox 720, Acer N310, Qtek 9000, HTC X7500, HTC Diamond Pro
- Some others : Zaurus 3100, 800, 860, NTT Sigmarion III, Newton 2000 & 2100 ... iPhone edge, iPhone 3G

... Ok, i'm really insane ...

But the N800 & N810 are the BEST eBook readers I used.
And Maemo is the best OS for a pocket device I ever used.

So, maybe you should get a life.

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	totololo	2009-05-27 , 22:01
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Hahaha !
Don't worry, I have one (boyfriend, friends, pets, nice job ...)

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	danramos	2009-05-27 , 22:04
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Originally Posted by totololo

Hahaha !
Don't worry, I have one (boyfriend, friends, pets, nice job ...)

I want a life.

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	YoDude	2009-05-27 , 22:13
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I use my N800 everyday with a car mount and BT GPS. I have a selection of useful apps that I refer to frequently and I can honestly say I now depend on the N800 in my day to day life. With that said I spent the past day and a half trying to determine if I would be handicapped by the 3.5", smaller screen...

Since I depend on fast task switching from the touch screen I run most apps in a dang window that is less than 3.5" anyway.

So it all will depend on the GUI and how tasks can be quickly switched or if a task navigator can be accessed with one touch while a full screen app is open...

I have recently used a Qt app on the N800 that brings up a transparent touch screen overlay with a simple screen gesture. That would be superb if gestures were used through out Maemo 5 for task navigation.

(BTW, using the hardware button on the N800 to bring up open tasks or the home screen requires so much pressure it will cause the tablet to swivel on the car mount angling the screen so it can't be viewed. )

The number one thing that I think will affect all of us is not screen size, D-pad, stylus, or keyboard... it will be price.

@Nokia peeps...

Now that Maemo is on a high priced phone will it have a PIM suite installed or will this forum spend the next 3 months trying to explain to new or potentially new users why it doesn't...

Just wondering.

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	daperl	2009-05-27 , 22:14
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Originally Posted by totololo

Hahaha !
Don't worry, I have one (boyfriend, friends, pets, nice job ...)

Yeah, but with that list above, you're mostly geek. It's time for acceptance. You have a life so I think you can handle it. We're here to help if you need us.

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	allnameswereout	2009-05-27 , 22:45
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Originally Posted by fms

Pretty much anything people do on a mobile device can be called a niche. Playing games is a niche. Listening to music is a niche. Using PIM is a niche. So, I am not sure what exactly are you trying to say by calling book reading a niche.

Simple: the format of the screen of a mobile device is not optimized for reading large amounts of texts. T9 is not optimized for large amounts of user input text either.

Physical screen size and pixel count.

Ah, so apparently that makes a world of difference according to you (I Doubt It Though). Now, what font would you suggest we use to read our e-books?

Why do you call Kindle a breakthrough?

Because that is the way I perceive it throughout the media. It appears to be the defacto standard, the device which makes the breakthrough for this kind of purpose. Not here, we don't even have a local Amazon store. But we have a small corporation which competes with the Kindle. In any case, the point is that the screen is larger (acceptable) than either a mobile phone or a N8x0. I wouldn't want to use either of those 2 to read large amounts of text because it is not comfortable to do so.

Meanwhile, tens of millions plugged their Chinese music players into a PC as USB mass storage devices and copied music directly, without having to "sync".

Music. iTunes does much more than music. For music it is mostly 1-way sync (except if the iPod/iPhone also has on-board iTunes). But it also supports stuff like iCalendar and such. And, maybe 'rsync' rings a bell. It'd be a perfect candidate to easily keep your music in sync with your DAP.

This is some bunch of buzzwords I, as a user, do not feel like caring about.

Your role is not 'user' in this discussion between us. Normal users indeed do not care about any of those technical terms (in your words "buzzwords") but they will not see these words either because the synchronization works in such way integrated that it Just Works (tm).

Yea, I had to use IMAP on few occasions. It is that thing that makes Modest hang and crash, isn't it?

Not here, nor in Mutt, nor on E71 e-mail client, nor in PINE, nor in mailx, nor in Mozilla Thunderbird, nor in Ximian Evolution, nor in Apple Mail, ...

It is not possible to use "external screen" because there are no "external screens" on a subway train. I am not even sure where you are coming from with this concept.

That is why I said foldable. Maybe you should look up on that. The concept would be that you have one in your bag in the size of a netbook or Kindle, but more like a dumb terminal, like a portable DVR (which go for 50 USD). Compared to an average mobile smartphone those make an impact when screen size matters whereas this difference is neglectible if you keep N8x0 vs average mobile smartphone in mind. In your eyes the difference might be incredible, but normal people will nowadays think in standard formats:

1) mobile phone
2) netbook
3) laptop
4) pc
5) tv (widescreen)

For each of these they have a picture in mind with certain features, including an approx screen size. 'Internet Tablet' is not, was not, and will never be part of the list for the casual user. Its 'weird', and the size difference between #1 and #2 is too vague to draw clear advantages.

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Originally Posted by YoDude

I use my N800 everyday with a car mount and BT GPS. I have a selection of useful apps that I refer to frequently and I can honestly say I now depend on the N800 in my day to day life. With that said I spent the past day and a half trying to determine if I would be handicapped by the 3.5", smaller screen...

Since I depend on fast task switching from the touch screen I run most apps in a dang window that is less than 3.5" anyway.

So it all will depend on the GUI and how tasks can be quickly switched or if a task navigator can be accessed with one touch while a full screen app is open...

Very true, it would depend on how they have the GUI setup, if it's anything like Maemo is now then a 3.5 screen would be a severe drawback. But if they made it more like the iPhone (the GUI hides away or a physical button is used to switch out) then it wouldn't be as bad.

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