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	Karel Jansens	2008-06-13 , 13:52
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Originally Posted by Texrat

Show me where I said that, Karel.

Oh, you weren't among those claiming that the Internet Tablets are just that: tablets to access Internet? That everything else users want to do with the Itablets is not something Nokia envisioned them doing with the Itablets, so they shouldn't complain if e.g. video doesn't play as smoothly as on a dedicated PMP?

By that theory, the Pandora is indeed no competition for the Itablets: It's way better.

You're letting your bitterness get the best of your common sense. Nokia's and Pandora's approaches are fundamentally different. Pandora isn't burdened by a long legacy of proprietary development. You are expecting too much, too soon from a monolithic cell phone manufacturer. I suggest a cold dose of reality to temper that idealism.

Have a look at Slashdot today to see how Ari Jaaksi's statements are received by the Open Source community.

You know, I don't know him all that well, I just think that, of what I've read of him before, that he comes over as a pedantic poco, but I couldn't have asked for a better supporter of my statements and sentiments of Nokia.

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	tbrminsanity	2008-06-13 , 14:06
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Originally Posted by Benson

What's non-standard about the current port,

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An SDR would be really cool, but if that happens, you know the interface won't be publicly available, and the code won't be open-source, right?

The port is standard for peripheral devices. I want to be able to plug in USB devices like a keyboard or flash disk.

There are a quite a few FLOSS SDR projects (mostly coming from the ham radio community), but I would be as happy as a pig in ##### if I was able to load in the appropriate software to get me the radio I need.

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	andrewfblack	2008-06-13 , 14:10
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Originally Posted by tbrminsanity

The port is standard for peripheral devices. I want to be able to plug in USB devices like a keyboard or flash disk.

There are a quite a few FLOSS SDR projects (mostly coming from the ham radio community), but I would be as happy as a pig in ##### if I was able to load in the appropriate software to get me the radio I need.

You can use a keyboard and flash disk using the current usb port just need a female to female adaptor or a usb extention cable.

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	GeneralAntilles	2008-06-13 , 14:13
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Originally Posted by tbrminsanity

The port is standard for peripheral devices. I want to be able to plug in USB devices like a keyboard or flash disk.

You should probably edify yourself a bit on this.

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	Mara	2008-06-13 , 14:29
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens

By that theory, the Pandora is indeed no competition for the Itablets: It's way better.

This is so cool... Where can I buy one? They say that it is available for end users in June/July... By any chance they mean this year???

On the other hand, while very interesting device, it just seem a bit too big for my liking.

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birneyw	2008-06-13 , 14:36
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Originally Posted by Mara

On the other hand, while very interesting device, it just seem a bit too big for my liking.

agreed 100 percent, the device should be able to put into a front pocket. I also like the camera in the n800 being rotatable... just needs more resolution....

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	Benson	2008-06-13 , 15:18
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Originally Posted by lardman

I'm a bit lost here, why would they think this and why would they expect it? The hardware is very cool, I'll get one just to play with that hardware in some sort of package (rather than a dev board).

What I mean is that it'll be reviewed in wired and the like, and declared a neat toy, but really sucktastic. It's aimed at two groups:

Hobbyists/geeks/hackers (like you and like me) who like this lovely little bit of hardware, and will deal with whatever software is on it, without too much complaining about the odd bit of polish or features missing, and without a concern in the world that none of the software houses are releasing any games for it.
Gamers who care about gameplay more than graphics, and are persuaded there's plenty of good gameplay in older games for platforms that can be emulated on the Pandora, and in SDL games and the like that can be readily ported.

Those are both pretty niche, so most reviews are going to focus on the lack of cover flow, and that it won't play DS games (yet), and pretty majorly diss it.

The Pandora looked good on paper with its awesome hardware specs, and it does play the few games that run on it very well, but unless you really like Zelda 2 and King's Quest 4, get yourself a DS lite.

The target audience will likely read those reviews, read between the lines, and go order one; so they don't really need to fear that criticism.

But big corporations do fear that sort of review, because it leaves impressions in consumers' minds about the entire brand, so they don't have any serious competition.

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	Texrat	2008-06-13 , 15:23
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens

Oh, you weren't among those claiming that the Internet Tablets are just that: tablets to access Internet? That everything else users want to do with the Itablets is not something Nokia envisioned them doing with the Itablets, so they shouldn't complain if e.g. video doesn't play as smoothly as on a dedicated PMP?

Karel, if you're going to publicly accuse me of something and lump me in with any crowd, I'd appreciate if you backed it up with quotes instead of just tossing out the usual easy snide commentary.

And I won't get into the rest of your reply other than to say your bias obviously leads you to the same extreme (and misguided) judgment as the kneejerking rabid slashdotters. Speaking of crowds-- that's sure a nice one.

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	Benson	2008-06-13 , 15:24
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Originally Posted by Mara

This is so cool... Where can I buy one? They say that it is available for end users in June/July... By any chance they mean this year???

On the other hand, while very interesting device, it just seem a bit too big for my liking.

That screen's the same size as the N800's, isn't it? It looks to me like it should barely be taller than the N800 (on account of the hinge), just a smidgen narrower, and of course thicker. Looks quite pocketable, and the size is no problem at all for me...

(The pictures, IMHO, make it look big; I have to keep reminding myself the screens are the same size.)

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