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2012-10-23 , 23:12
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman View Post
NOKIA should have gone Android route, but they should have done it before Elop. By the time Elop came, it was too late. With regards to Maemo team, I honestly think they cant deliver. It took them since 2008 to come up with N9, and they came up with a beta device. Sorry, but that team had not leadership, no wonder Jussa got axed as a CEO and they put some Mark guy there now.

What is this obsession with Elop? Elop was brought in to do the obvious. Get rid of obsolete OSs (Symbian, Maemo, Meego) and move on. They considered Android, they went with WP. Why they did that, we will never know the details. And certainly you and I have the least of them. Stop bashing Elop when problems at NOKIA were clearly bad prior to him. He is cleaning the house, and he may clean the whole company with his decisions, but he tried. NOKIA was otherwise destined for certain death.
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2012-10-23 , 23:18
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"NOKIA was otherwise destined for certain death"

As opposed to what?

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2012-10-24 , 01:30
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman View Post
READ MY LIPS: NOKIA IS NOT A SOFTWARE COMPANY.
Hildon, Maemo, the majority of the new apps transferred from MeeGo to WP7 and now WP8 will disagree with you. They are a software company, with not only Symbian (bought), but also Qt (bought), and Maemo (built), and MeeGo (contributed and help built) as well as Nokia Drive, Maps, City Lens, Music, et al all disagree with you.

Nokia has made the best WP7 apps, they've blazed their trails on operating systems, applications and honestly have done more than just skin an OS (like Samsung) ... so naw dude.

Your statement is inherently false and easily disputed. You might want to go back and qualify the statement with something like that you don't like the software they produce. That's a different statement.
 
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2012-10-24 , 03:42
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Can Nokia Save Itself?

No fvckin' way.

http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/12/...ia-save-itself
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2012-10-24 , 06:11
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#645
Of course nokia can save itself. Just not inte current form.
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2012-10-24 , 06:44
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#646
Nokia is not a software OS?

Symbian and the S-series have been running on more devices than Windows, if I am not mistaken. S40 alone has been on more than 1.5 billion devices.

Does that mean that Microsoft isn't a software company, too?

I am so fed up with the blatant trolls ruining this place, I think I will leave TMO for good soon. But then, that's why they're here.
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2012-10-24 , 09:22
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#647
Originally Posted by Lumiaman View Post
READ MY LIPS: NOKIA IS NOT A SOFTWARE COMPANY.
Read mine: They won't be a company at all soon, at this rate.

Originally Posted by uTMY View Post
"NOKIA was otherwise destined for certain death"

As opposed to what?

rgds
In Nokia's case, 'uncertain subsistence?'

Originally Posted by volt View Post
Nokia is not a software OS?

Symbian and the S-series have been running on more devices than Windows, if I am not mistaken. S40 alone has been on more than 1.5 billion devices.

Does that mean that Microsoft isn't a software company, too?

I am so fed up with the blatant trolls ruining this place, I think I will leave TMO for good soon. But then, that's why they're here.
Naw, don't leave. If the good people leave, all that'll be left are the rubes and curs.
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2012-10-24 , 10:31
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I will correct myself: Third rate software company. They can't compete with the big boys and girls. Equivalent to third division football.
 
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2012-10-24 , 11:00
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I'm sorry Lumiaman but I think you have that wrong and heres just one example to contradict you.

Symbian was deployed to 1.4bn devices.

Thats more than Microsoft has shipped for Windows.
Thats more than Facebook has users.
Thats more than IBM has Lotus Notes seats.
Thats more than Microsoft has Exchange seats.

Doesn't sound very third rate to me.

Perhaps you are mistaken in your claim.

rgds

In fact I can only think of perhaps SQLite as having a larger software deployment off the top of my head. Maybe Java too.
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2012-10-24 , 13:17
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It's also quite apparent if anything's going to keep NOKIA afloat now it's going to be the devices running Series 40.
 
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