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#651
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Well, looking only at recent thread-drift, it's obvious that what we would realistically like to see in the N900 is... a Pandora clone?
Do you think Nokia can give it a Clamshell design and people can mistake it for a Nintendo DS instead of a cell phone.
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That screen's the same size as the N800's, isn't it? It looks to me like it should barely be taller than the N800 (on account of the hinge), just a smidgen narrower, and of course thicker. Looks quite pocketable, and the size is no problem at all for me...

(The pictures, IMHO, make it look big; I have to keep reminding myself the screens are the same size.)
That's why I said a "bit too big"... not huge, just a bit too big. As comparison to N800 the N810 is not as wide and it makes significant difference in pocketability, more than I first thought when just comparing the dimensions on paper. The N810 is about the perfect size in my opinion.

And we do not know (cough... ) how the "N900" will look and what HW spec it has... but personally I'm really looking forward to it.
 
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And we do not know (cough... )...
You've been hanging around the rat too much.
 

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Originally Posted by Benson View Post
Well, looking only at recent thread-drift, it's obvious that what we would realistically like to see in the N900 is... a Pandora clone?
i would not mind a N900 with a keyboard solution similar to sharp zaurus.

or maybe, something where one can either have it like the N810 right now, tilted up like the HTC shift, or fully folded over to protect the screen.

oh and throw in a dual digitizer screen
 
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#655
Originally Posted by Benson View Post
That screen's the same size as the N800's, isn't it? It looks to me like it should barely be taller than the N800 (on account of the hinge), just a smidgen narrower, and of course thicker. Looks quite pocketable, and the size is no problem at all for me...

(The pictures, IMHO, make it look big; I have to keep reminding myself the screens are the same size.)
The screen is bigger; it's actually the same 4.3" screen of the Archos 605 (which is, for those that have seen it, gorgeous). The Pandora as a whole is marginally bigger than a Nintendo DS Lite (140x83x27 mm -- DS Lite: 133 mm×73.9 mm×21.5 mm). This would make IMO quite pocketable.

Also, no bulges...
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Ah.. 4.3" vs. 4.1"... whatever. No bulges? You mean vs. what exactly? I'm not familiar with the DS lite (never had time/money to care about a games-only machine), but the N800 is thinner at the bulge than the Pandora, so the lack of bulges seems immaterial, if that's what you meant...
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clamshell needs to have the touchscreen in the bottom half of the clam, thus it's only possible really for dual screen setup, not for qwerty setup. Anyway, might work. Maybe someone could make an example proto out of a 770 or n800.
 
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Ah.. 4.3" vs. 4.1"... whatever. No bulges? You mean vs. what exactly? I'm not familiar with the DS lite (never had time/money to care about a games-only machine), but the N800 is thinner at the bulge than the Pandora, so the lack of bulges seems immaterial, if that's what you meant...
I remember the days when the N800's bulge was a Big Deal. Personally I couldn't care less, but I figured I'd mention it, mainly -- I admit -- to try some trolling.

I see one clear advantage of the Pandora's design: Watching movies in bed should actually be easier with the Pandora (for me personally, that is); the clamshell design makes it sit more stable on my chest.

Other than that, what can I say about the Pandora? It's certainly not in my Newtons' league, but it's better than the Psion Series 5mx; ergonomically not as good as the Psion Netbook though. BTW, I still chuckle when people claim Asus "invented" the subnotebook. I now own two devices that prove them wrong (HP Omnibook 425 fand Psion Netbook) and if, §DEITY willing, I can get my hands on an eMate one day, it'll be three.
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I'd like to see something like Pandora with a smaller clamshell design & 2 SD card slots, but I'd also like the keyboard to be a bit different. I can type pretty fast with my Treo 755p; I figure the reason is because of shorter distance between keys, and the keys are tapered very well so that you can feel the difference between one key & the next easily. The Treo's thumbboard is just barely larger than 1"x2"... it's incredible. I wish these MIDs would start using thumbboards like the Treos in the middle of a compact clamshell design (think DS Lite), with joystick (or d-pad) on left side of keys and gaming keypad on right side for essential gaming buttons!!

I haven't been too fond of the sliders, like N810, but I am considering the Gigabyte M528 that runs Ubuntu Mobile - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76NviXg_1g4 .... only disappointment seems to be the less than 3 hr battery life. But I can manage to pay for another battery or two. I *really* like how it has a SIM card slot and practical cameras on both sides of the machine. The only way it could be better, IMO, is the better keyboard/joystick (d-pad)/5-way input setup like I mentioned above.

There are just too many good machines to look out nowadays, I'll prolly skip the N800. But I really do want that 5+ hour battery life. Arrgghh...
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I'd like to see something like Pandora with a smaller clamshell design & 2 SD card slots, but I'd also like the keyboard to be a bit different.
The Pandora has two SD card slots. Theoretically it could even be made smaller by dropping the gaming controls (which is basically its "raison d'ętre", so it won't happen) or even the keyboard (but if the Nokia tablets have learned us anything, it is that a tablet without an easy way to input text is humbug).

People who have actually used the keyboard on Pandora prototypes claim it is surprisingly easy to use, although I suspect less easy than Psion's marvelous Series 5 keyboard (the only palmtop I've ever been able to touch-type -- sort-offish -- on).

I've had 2 Treos (270 and 650) and found neither thumbpads particularly easy for anything but really short entries.

Oh, and Pandora will come with a 4,000 mAh battery for 10 hours of computing or up to 100 (!) hours of basic music playback.
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