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Does anyone know what date the last time Adobe or Nokia actually talked about Flash 10.

What I don't understand is, Adobe proclaiming the greatness of flash, and fighting apple while being content with a gimped version of it on this phone.

Youtube looks horrible and no other flash players ever work at all.

At least the iPhone has decent quality youtube vids.
 
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Originally Posted by nax3000 View Post
Has anyone actually tried contacting adobe directly? I know someone contacted Nokia and they said something like "hopefully yes".
Yes!

And all you can get from Adobe is references to ask Nokia. They are not allowed to speak for partners decisions. But doing all they can to provide support for partners..

By the way
http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
And see what number you get Yes it's official now.

HOWEVER

This version is nothing else like Flash 10.1 RC7
They Just approved it as stable. They mess up some release notes links and nothing seems to be working at the moment :/, looks like work in progress.

But as far as I remember (I was reading this pretty much 5 day ago as release notes RC7) They mentioned about Linux devices as a lack of GPU acceleration. Reason? Lack of proper drivers for some specific devices. So... once again seems to be job that have to be done by vendors, nobody else. Android guys did they job.

I have no reason to do not trust what Adobe saying. They said 7 months ago Adobe final 10.1 release will arrive in June. And arrived in mid June. So unusual for any company these days. Don't you agree?
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I've got a pretty good PC so I can't really tell performance boosts concerning flash heh..

MAN I wish they'd announce flash on the N900 already. It is coming to the droid which is basically the same hardware only with a different OS (that's linux based too anyway)
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Originally Posted by devu View Post
I have no reason to do not trust what Adobe saying. They said 7 months ago Adobe final 10.1 release will arrive in June. And arrived in mid June. So unusual for any company these days. Don't you agree?
Hey hey... Adobe was delaying stuff endlessly.

http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pres...obeTIOMAP.html
A pre-release of the optimized Adobe Flash Player 10 for devices is expected to be available to manufacturers this summer with an official production release expected in Q1 2010. OMAP solutions supporting the pre-release of Adobe Flash Player are expected to be available for manufacturers and developers in the second half of 2009. (never happened)

http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pres...cesandPCs.html
A public developer beta of the browser-based runtime is expected to be available for Windows® Mobile, Palm® webOS and desktop operating systems including Windows, Macintosh and Linux later this year. Public betas for Google® Android™ and Symbian® OS are expected to be available in early 2010. (never happened except for the Nexus One and Linux)

http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pres...dobeFlash.html
Adobe Flash Player 10 for ARMv6 and ARMv7 architecture-based hardware is expected to be available royalty-free to partners participating in the Open Screen Project. Flash Player 10 for ARM processor-based devices will be made available to OEMs by Adobe. (ARMv6 never happened, ask your friends with HTC Heros)

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...artphones.html
Still, the mobile effort hasn't been a breeze for Adobe, which has recently fallen behind schedule. In June it said it would release the Flash Player 10 beta in October, to coincide with this week's Adobe Max conference. While the Windows Mobile and Palm webOS betas will be out soon, Android and Symbian will be several months late when they arrive next year. Murarka said Android is taking longer because Adobe needs some programming interfaces that will be available with the Eclair release of Android, due later this year. (never happened, again, see outcry on HTC Hero forums, FroYo became the minimum)

So no, in the mobile device segment they have been consistently promising and then falling behind schedule since early 2009 (no, there WAS no final release of 10.1 for any mobile platform yet, but they still have two weeks to deliver on that).
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Originally Posted by nax3000 View Post
Has anyone actually tried contacting adobe directly? I know someone contacted Nokia and they said something like "hopefully yes".
If you have a link can you post it. The only indication we have had is quole's contact in Nokia which said "No, n900 is not getting flash" and quole is very certain on it.

And to all others who say no other phone has flash 10 properly yet, you utterly miss the point - Adobe has announced plans to release flash 10 for the other mobile OSes (except Apple obviously, but they have their gazzillion apps to access content) EXCEPT for mameo 5, and this is what is angering users here. As websites upgrade to new flash the n900 LOSES access to content, whereas the other phone Oses with flash 10 GAIN access to more content.

As for those blaming the user for "being lazy" - its ppl like you why Nokia can keep doing this to its users - because ppl like you keep forgiving and keep buying.

End of the day it is this, IF you are not happy with Nokia's actions on the n900, then SELL your phone and do not buy Nokia again and tell your friends the same, because dropping sales is the ONLY way that Nokia will realise it has to provide adequate support to its users. Do your *****ing, but once you have vented and Nokia ignores you, this is your only proper course of action.

This is how the market works - talk is cheap and achieves nothing with Nokia, but a sinking $$$ bottom line WILL.
 
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Originally Posted by Frappacino View Post

This is how the market works - talk is cheap and achieves nothing with Nokia, but a sinking $$$ bottom line WILL.
Then why not start a revolution? Why not have website with verified users who sell their Nokias and buy something else? Price of another mobile = Nokias loss. If we are able to do that then perhaps we can show Nokia what they are actually losing (not that they dont know it already) and which better place to start from then right here.

It's not the selling of your current nokia handset that will make a difference its the buying of another brand.

When those numbers reach higher is when Nokia sweats and if you are able to do that on a really large scale then yes I agree it would matter.

I really love my N900 but I hate what Nokia can do. It was announced in November 2009 so 7-8 months since then and thats all? I might be totally wrong and Nokia either has bigger plans for it or they dont. From the looks of it they dont really have any focus on it anymore.

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Btw, he is qole and not quole

Hoping that the latest flash (hardware acceleration) soon arrives on the N900...
 

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Originally Posted by Frappacino View Post
And to all others who say no other phone has flash 10 properly yet, you utterly miss the point - Adobe has announced plans to release flash 10 for the other mobile OSes (except Apple obviously, but they have their gazzillion apps to access content) EXCEPT for mameo 5, and this is what is angering users here. As websites upgrade to new flash the n900 LOSES access to content, whereas the other phone Oses with flash 10 GAIN access to more content.

As for those blaming the user for "being lazy" - its ppl like you why Nokia can keep doing this to its users - because ppl like you keep forgiving and keep buying.
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is the ONLY way that Nokia will realise it has to provide adequate support to its users.
WTF ? So which company is it ? Or did I miss Nokia buying Adobe and being able to call the shots what platforms get supported ? IF there is support for a platform, then yes, it’s the OEM’s fault for not bringing it to a particular device. But people, if Adobe can’t get it’s act together on mainstream *desktop* linux builds (on which the Maemo releases are based on), then what do you expect ?
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Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
WTF ? So which company is it ? Or did I miss Nokia buying Adobe and being able to call the shots what platforms get supported ? IF there is support for a platform, then yes, it’s the OEM’s fault for not bringing it to a particular device. But people, if Adobe can’t get it’s act together on mainstream *desktop* linux builds (on which the Maemo releases are based on), then what do you then expect ?
You're posting in the wrong forum. This one is only for blaming Nokia for all of one's shortcomings.
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