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2010-09-14
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Aha, so it works now... :-)
Actually it's not even necessary to "install" it to /opt as root, putting it in /home/user works just as well, we just need a Linux fs where files can be executed...
The new UI is nice and getting better all the time. The global "all/unread" setting is just great, and the new list views are nice too, easy to read.
A few more thoughts on usability though :
I like the post count on each line in the feed view, and the feed name in the "all posts" view. Maybe the visual effect would be nicer if they had a coloured beackground instead of white (like the same blue as the selection bar ?).
Also, there is a lot of width space left on these screens, so there could be a vertical toolbar in the side (like in grr) for the frequently used menu entries (sync, fetch more, mark all read, orientation etc.).
In landscape mode my favourite feature is keyboard navigation, but it's not all there yet. It's nice to be able to scroll through the lists with the arrows, select with Enter and go back with Backspace. But when you switch from feeds list to posts list this way, the new list doesn't have focus so you can't immediately scroll or select something with the keyboard.
And when you get to the post view, there is no in-page navigation any more. It would be good to be able to scroll up & down the page with arrows and/or space bar like in browsers.
Still about post view :
- I still can't stand that scrolling "marquee" window title :-)
- the in-page additional title is very nice, but it fades a bit fast for me
- when I'm in "all posts" mode (which is almost all the time), I often can't tell which feed the post is from.
So what I'd really like is an option/preference to :
- Put the feed name in the window title
- keep the in-page title as it is, but fixed (non-fading)
Just call it "the Fred mode" :-)
Also, the zoom keys do work (generally) in post view, and that's very useful. However, I find that I almost always zoom in at the start of the session, meaning the default font size is too small for my eyes. It would be nice to also have an option/preference for that...
Too bad about the buggy orientation change... In my own app, I used the same old hack you had in GRead, only instead of the "sleep(2)" between the two commands, I set a QTimer.singleshot with a callback (am I being clear ? :-). Seems to work OK, even if the screen sometimes flickers once after a change. But then it's a lot simpler than GRead...
Anyway, portait mode is not something I'd use much in GRead right now, because of the lack of navigation. To be usable it would really need a few buttons for the basics (again, like in grr). Or am I missing something ?
Thanks for the new version all the same... and looking forward to the next :-)
Last edited by fpp; 2010-09-14 at 12:05.
Actually it's not even necessary to "install" it to /opt as root, putting it in /home/user works just as well, we just need a Linux fs where files can be executed...
The new UI is nice and getting better all the time. The global "all/unread" setting is just great, and the new list views are nice too, easy to read.
A few more thoughts on usability though :
I like the post count on each line in the feed view, and the feed name in the "all posts" view. Maybe the visual effect would be nicer if they had a coloured beackground instead of white (like the same blue as the selection bar ?).
Also, there is a lot of width space left on these screens, so there could be a vertical toolbar in the side (like in grr) for the frequently used menu entries (sync, fetch more, mark all read, orientation etc.).
In landscape mode my favourite feature is keyboard navigation, but it's not all there yet. It's nice to be able to scroll through the lists with the arrows, select with Enter and go back with Backspace. But when you switch from feeds list to posts list this way, the new list doesn't have focus so you can't immediately scroll or select something with the keyboard.
And when you get to the post view, there is no in-page navigation any more. It would be good to be able to scroll up & down the page with arrows and/or space bar like in browsers.
Still about post view :
- I still can't stand that scrolling "marquee" window title :-)
- the in-page additional title is very nice, but it fades a bit fast for me
- when I'm in "all posts" mode (which is almost all the time), I often can't tell which feed the post is from.
So what I'd really like is an option/preference to :
- Put the feed name in the window title
- keep the in-page title as it is, but fixed (non-fading)
Just call it "the Fred mode" :-)
Also, the zoom keys do work (generally) in post view, and that's very useful. However, I find that I almost always zoom in at the start of the session, meaning the default font size is too small for my eyes. It would be nice to also have an option/preference for that...
Too bad about the buggy orientation change... In my own app, I used the same old hack you had in GRead, only instead of the "sleep(2)" between the two commands, I set a QTimer.singleshot with a callback (am I being clear ? :-). Seems to work OK, even if the screen sometimes flickers once after a change. But then it's a lot simpler than GRead...
Anyway, portait mode is not something I'd use much in GRead right now, because of the lack of navigation. To be usable it would really need a few buttons for the basics (again, like in grr). Or am I missing something ?
Thanks for the new version all the same... and looking forward to the next :-)
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2010-09-14
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Originally Posted by Twidi
Could you please try to "install" GRead inside /opt in a tmp directory (not GRead, try "GRead-dev") and run it from here :
PS : don't copy from your "MyDocs" directory, some permissions may not be goot
Originally Posted by fpp
Oops, should have thought of that. I put it into the user directory & works fine from there.
Aha, so it works now... :-)
Actually it's not even necessary to "install" it to /opt as root, putting it in /home/user works just as well, we just need a Linux fs where files can be executed...
I like the post count on each line in the feed view, and the feed name in the "all posts" view. Maybe the visual effect would be nicer if they had a coloured beackground instead of white (like the same blue as the selection bar ?).-
Also, the zoom keys do work (generally) in post view, and that's very useful. However, I find that I almost always zoom in at the start of the session, meaning the default font size is too small for my eyes. It would be nice to also have an option/preference for that...
Too bad about the buggy orientation change... In my own app, I used the same old hack you had in GRead, only instead of the "sleep(2)" between the two commands, I set a QTimer.singleshot with a callback (am I being clear ? :-). Seems to work OK, even if the screen sometimes flickers once after a change. But then it's a lot simpler than GRead...
Anyway, portait mode is not something I'd use much in GRead right now, because of the lack of navigation. To be usable it would really need a few buttons for the basics (again, like in grr). Or am I missing something ?
Thanks for the app. Really starting to look good.
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2010-09-14
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Is there a way to view the oldest items at the top? It seems the most recent are at the top in the current implementation.
thanks,
Frank
thanks,
Frank
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2010-09-14
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#65
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I don't know if this was posted before, but here's the way to get an icon for GRead on your menu, just make a gread.desktop in /usr/share/applications/hildon with this as the contents:
Notice I have two things in bold there, for the first one, you have to have where you got the files you cloned from the git repo (~/.gread/ in my case) and on the second is the icon. (icons are stored in /opt/maemo/usr/share/icons/hicolor, choose one and use just the file name without the extension) (I kept grr installed just to use its icon :P)
also; re: suggestions: +1 for not being able to stand the marquee on the title, I'd love an option to disable it :P
Code:
[Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Version=1.0.0 Type=Application Name=GRead Exec=/usr/bin/python /home/user/.gread/src/gread.py Icon=grr X-HildonDesk-ShowInToolbar=true X-Osso-Type=application/x-executable
also; re: suggestions: +1 for not being able to stand the marquee on the title, I'd love an option to disable it :P
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2010-09-15
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@ Texas
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Feature requests:
I have disabled the timer that scrolls the title in the item view constantly, it's too distracting. Maybe make this a preference?
I have disabled the banner title that scrolls up on view and then is hidden. This is distracting as well. Maybe another preference?
I also reversed the sort order that I requested above.
After these 3 changes (of personal preference), this seems like a pretty sweet application.
thanks,
Frank
I have disabled the timer that scrolls the title in the item view constantly, it's too distracting. Maybe make this a preference?
I have disabled the banner title that scrolls up on view and then is hidden. This is distracting as well. Maybe another preference?
I also reversed the sort order that I requested above.
After these 3 changes (of personal preference), this seems like a pretty sweet application.
thanks,
Frank
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2010-09-15
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@ Paris, France
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Originally Posted by fpp
i changed this by used highlight colors instead normal colors (before this change i just used the background as foreground and vice-versa)
I like the post count on each line in the feed view, and the feed name in the "all posts" view. Maybe the visual effect would be nicer if they had a coloured beackground instead of white (like the same blue as the selection bar ?).
And an other change : little feed-name at the right are limited to 1/3 of the total length, to let more place for the feed title (and a bug with multi height lines was also resolved)
Originally Posted by fpp
I have not a lot of space, anybody could have long titles...
Also, there is a lot of width space left on these screens, so there could be a vertical toolbar in the side (like in grr) for the frequently used menu entries (sync, fetch more, mark all read, orientation etc.).
Originally Posted by fpp
Now all list and internal browser should gain focus each time a now content is selected in the previous window.
In landscape mode my favourite feature is keyboard navigation, but it's not all there yet. It's nice to be able to scroll through the lists with the arrows, select with Enter and go back with Backspace. But when you switch from feeds list to posts list this way, the new list doesn't have focus so you can't immediately scroll or select something with the keyboard.
Originally Posted by fpp
The keyboard shortcuts are not here yet but i know i have this to do
And when you get to the post view, there is no in-page navigation any more. It would be good to be able to scroll up & down the page with arrows and/or space bar like in browsers.
Originally Posted by fpp
Thanks to Mavit (someone here ) who made this optional in settings (now available in my version)
- I still can't stand that scrolling "marquee" window title :-)
Originally Posted by fpp
The delay is a little longer now
- the in-page additional title is very nice, but it fades a bit fast for me
Originally Posted by fpp
With the new limited length of feed titles, it should be better
- when I'm in "all posts" mode (which is almost all the time), I often can't tell which feed the post is from.
Originally Posted by fpp
It could be an idea
So what I'd really like is an option/preference to :
- Put the feed name in the window title
- keep the in-page title as it is, but fixed (non-fading)
Just call it "the Fred mode" :-)
Originally Posted by fpp
I will change the default and add an option in the settings window
Also, the zoom keys do work (generally) in post view, and that's very useful. However, I find that I almost always zoom in at the start of the session, meaning the default font size is too small for my eyes. It would be nice to also have an option/preference for that...
I do the same way each time (zoom at the start of the session)...
Originally Posted by fpp
One day i'll try it again
Too bad about the buggy orientation change... In my own app, I used the same old hack you had in GRead, only instead of the "sleep(2)" between the two commands, I set a QTimer.singleshot with a callback (am I being clear ? :-). Seems to work OK, even if the screen sometimes flickers once after a change. But then it's a lot simpler than GRead...
Originally Posted by fpp
With the landscape/mode (which replaces the "auto" mode), i really appreciate the portrait mode. It doesn't go back to landscape mode when i don't want so.
Anyway, portait mode is not something I'd use much in GRead right now, because of the lack of navigation. To be usable it would really need a few buttons for the basics (again, like in grr). Or am I missing something ?
And i have no problem with navigation, you have the menu on the title bar with all the options, and the back button on the title to go back. I use GRead this way all the time, in portrait mode (and yes sometimes in landscape with the keyboard)
Notice that you can now switch to the previous/next item directly while viewing an item with two new "furtive" buttons... (but no currently option to fetch more, refresh (etc) in this view)
BTW, Thanks a lot for your report !
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2010-09-15
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Originally Posted by grog
There is more colors now : the feed name right aligned is now in highlight colors (white on blue with the default theme)
I second that. I find the all white makes it hard to see the unread items. Coupled with that the read items still show until I manually refresh, makes reading a little harder.
And you can notice a new little horizontal blue (the highlight color) bar on the left side of each category/feed/item unread. Useful to quickly show what is unread.
(and Thanks for you message !)
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2010-09-15
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Originally Posted by Frank Banul
The engine can manage this but sort options are not available yet in the UI
Is there a way to view the oldest items at the top? It seems the most recent are at the top in the current implementation.
thanks,
Frank
Btw there is another problem with this : more older item can be displayed as they are retrieved from special feeds (it is possible to view a one month old item) and it will not be easy to see what are the really new items.
I have an idea to manage this, but... my todo list is so long
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2010-09-15
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Originally Posted by fwrnando
There is one now thanks to mavit on Github (is that you ?). But i have no icon yet !
I don't know if this was posted before, but here's the way to get an icon for GRead on your menu, just make a gread.desktop in /usr/share/applications/hildon
Thanks !