I don't believe he said anything of the sort, you seem to be misconstruing what he said.
You seem to be confused, perhaps you should review the dozen or so epic threads that outlined what HF encompassed.

Rob, take your pills, then reread what I wrote. How you can make an insult out of me quoting some inspecific sort of people thinking there should be an emperor is **absolutely** beyond me.


also, I don't exactly get it what you hope to "steer" with that server?

TBH, it was kind of a weird/non-helpful sentence, even if it really wasn't directed at him....
Why even make it in the 1st place, is that how you genuinely perceive some people, do you honestly think it's justified/accurate, why? Honest Qn.

Ok, I'm forming my own alliens at TMO. Good luck with your election and your atittude.

I will follow you Dave, the community will surely survive with your fearless leadership

@jalyst

Well, more often than I'd like I encounter users/drive-by-commenters that suggest "the community should be guided to do this or do that" - usually the demands are specific like "council should tell (CSSU) developers to port maemo to XY" or similar. I honestly wonder what those guys are thinking and what I should think about them. Anyway those guys are the only ones that honestly suggest that any maemo entity like HiFo or council should "steer" something. So I guess it's fair to assume it would be first and foremost those guys that needs steering, if we would do any such thing like steering the community (maybe we got a definition problem here: when I say "maemo" I mean the community and maybe the OS. For sure I don't mean peripheral stuff like an infra. Maybe others do exactly that: maemo=the-website). Usually those guys asking for council/HiFo doing "steering maemo" also don't get it when I try to explain to them that council is community's ambassadors, not their leaders. Same applies for HiFo which are more like community's stewards, but also not leaders.
How Rob got mad about this comment about a particular kind of people "in community" is honestly beyond me. What I understand however is him accusing me for namecalling while same time he calls my posts "rubbish" and judges on what I get or don't get, based on unrelated statements that are really completely unlinked to what I wrote. Or did I say "HiFo is useless"???

:baffled:

/j

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[quote jalyst] ...I don't believe he said anything of the sort, you seem to be misconstruing what he said.[/quote]
he's not the only one: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...9&postcount=25 [quote Woody] You've worded it poorly enough that community ablaze, screaming about HiFo separating from the community[/quote]

What is alliens? That word is not in my dictionary.....

This is much clearer, it helps remove confusion & find some common ground, there's no 100% right way on how to take things forward (except for the more technical/immediate migration related stuff ofc), everyone needs to be prepared to hear everyone out, & appreciate the merits of one another's views. This is especially important for the Council & BoD, & they in turn need to reach out to their constituents, & not just the same old hardcore clique. Council/BoD has to go out of it's way to ensure that the entire community's well aware of what's happening, + give it time to digest & offer feed-back. All of this is mostly done in my estimation, & usually done pretty well, ofc there's always room for improvement, & everyone's fallible, but that's what we should always strive for. We must also never forget that all of us want a community that's healthy/vibrant, even 7yrs from now, we may disagree on how we go about that, but ultimately our end goal is the same.

Anyway, I genuinely wish everyone well on that ride, I've decided to back away completely from the community for approx. 7mths, simply too much going on IRL. I really admire those who are able to sufficiently time manage themselves so that they can give back, big respect to everyone who does that, whether it be as a developer or some other way. This should be my last post, so if anyone sees me posting again, please do chastise me for having no will power!

Adios.

Well that's hardly declaring that the foundation now does nothing in the interests of Maemo xx-6x, which is what Reinob's post implied.
Seems to be little more than a "storm in a tea-cup", which (sadly) is a holding pattern this community often gets itself into.

I'm sorry. I mean Alliance of cource.

I'm forming if you need any help in the future:

Thank you Dave, now I understand what you meant.

I think it is very important that we use the rigths words to prevent misunderstanding. It is easier for people who are native English speakers to understand misspellings than it is for us who have it as a second language.