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2007-11-19 , 20:33
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Sure, Lardman. I believe I tried every possible parameter.

Now the N800 runs a OMAP2420 microprocessor at 400 MHz. The Treo runs a Intel XScale at 312 MHz. Is the XScale that much more powerful than the OMAP2420?
Quoting myself above, but this question has not been answered. Anyone know? It just really puzzles me that the Treo is so much better for this on task than the NIT. I knew going in that the N800 was crappy for video, but it's a fact that it was said that OS2008 would be the cure for these problems. Not here.

Like I said, I love me some N800, but I'd sure like to hear technical reasons for it's poor performance vs the Treo.
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2007-11-19 , 21:24
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Yeah, wit properly configured mplayer, video playback should be really good for all converted videos. But, if you are planning to try to play non-converted videos that are of even slightly high resolution , then it won't be able to make it.

also, it might be that the xscale has far more optimized codecs. It does have quite a lot of media acceleration instructions in the chipset.
 
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Originally Posted by JeffElkins View Post
Sure, Lardman. I believe I tried every possible parameter.


Like I said, I love me some N800, but I'd sure like to hear technical reasons for it's poor performance vs the Treo.
The Treo 650 has a 320x320 resolution while N800 runs at 800x480. Wouldn't this be one reason for Treo to display faster videos?
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2007-11-19 , 21:44
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Sure, Lardman. I believe I tried every possible parameter.
I only ask as TCPMP probably does it all behind the scenes without telling you.

The Treo 650 has a 320x320 resolution while N800 runs at 800x480. Wouldn't this be one reason for Treo to display faster videos?
I would have thought this will make some difference, but if the native resolution of the video is larger than this, surely the decoding will still take a similar time as it can't be shrunk until this has been at least partially done.

Quoting myself above, but this question has not been answered. Anyone know? It just really puzzles me that the Treo is so much better for this on task than the NIT. I knew going in that the N800 was crappy for video, but it's a fact that it was said that OS2008 would be the cure for these problems. Not here.

Like I said, I love me some N800, but I'd sure like to hear technical reasons for it's poor performance vs the Treo.
Me too; I'd like to know whether it really performs better due to the code/hardware accel, or if it's just down to the screen resolution.

I don't know how one would go about testing this though, can TCPMP output any benchmark information about how fast it's processing videos?
 
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2007-11-19 , 22:57
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Originally Posted by lardman View Post
I don't know how one would go about testing this though, can TCPMP output any benchmark information about how fast it's processing videos?
Lessee...

For Disney's Alice in Wonderland TCPMP reports:
624x480
FPS: 24.33
DivX/xVid format

Plays perfectly.
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Originally Posted by JeffElkins View Post
Lessee...

For Disney's Alice in Wonderland TCPMP reports:
624x480
FPS: 24.33
DivX/xVid format

Plays perfectly.
Just get mediaserv setup on a machine that can transcode in realtime or better. :\ It works perfectly every time and looks good to boot!
 
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Just get mediaserv setup on a machine that can transcode in realtime or better. :\ It works perfectly every time and looks good to boot!
Yes, that's what to do it you just want it to work, but I'd like to know why it doesn't work (or whether it's do do with the smaller screen resolution).

Are there any films available for download that play for you on TCPMP but not N800 (as then I can look at them too).?
 
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2007-11-20 , 12:32
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With mplayer I seem to be getting good results if I run it with -nosound, but with sound on the same files can stall completely..

EDIT: I should qualify that, as this is an OS2008 thread: The above is with OS2007, and may not be relevant.
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2007-11-20 , 12:38
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I tried to convert with sQuint. The output works like a charm. Looks like crap thou. Any ideas on how to increase the bitrate?
 
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Originally Posted by lardman View Post
Yes, that's what to do it you just want it to work, but I'd like to know why it doesn't work (or whether it's do do with the smaller screen resolution).

Are there any films available for download that play for you on TCPMP but not N800 (as then I can look at them too).?
Here's an animation: http://www.elkins.org/toad.avi

It's only 32Mb. I'll leave it up for a day or so. The site is hosted by godaddy so be warned: throughput is crappy.
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