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2008-12-16
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Originally Posted by mrgreaper
I do.
you serously believe everyone here just wants to check there wifi security?
Originally Posted by D'ohboy
Huh? What?
Finally, security through obscurity does not work, if it did Windows would be the most secure OS out there.
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2008-12-16
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#63
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I've used programs like this to test my security too.
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2008-12-16
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#64
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I was making a crack at Windows, because they support security through obscurity. To quote Windows v Linux security: the real facts.
In addition good security practices like using WPA2, a strong password, and changing that password periodically are just good habits to have. Also I would liken this software to any other tool like for example torrent software, it can be used to pirate films and TV shows, but I have used torrents to download Ubuntu Linux ISOs. Software is just software it is how someone uses it that makes it bad or good.
Last edited by D'ohboy; 2008-12-16 at 23:22.
Myth Open Source Software is inherently dangerous because its source code is widely available, whereas Windows 'blueprints' are carefully guarded by Microsoft.
Fact This 'inherent danger' clearly has not manifested itself in terms of actual attacks. Windows-specific viruses, Trojans, worms and malicious programs exist in huge numbers, so if one gives any credence at all to this claim, one would do better to phrase it 'Open Source Software ought to be more dangerous'. But the claim itself hinges on the view - rejected by reputable security professionals - that obscurity aids security. Obscurity/secrecy can also make it more difficult for the vendors themselves to identify vulnerabilities in their own products, and can lead to security issues being neglected because they are not widely-known. The Open Source model, on the other hand, facilitates widespread review and makes it easier to identify and correct flaws. Modular design principles support this, while the overall approach is far more in line with security industry thinking than is 'security through obscurity.'
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2008-12-16
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#65
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Originally Posted by mrgreaper
Depends on the part of town I'm driving through...
if it was a stormy night and youu had a dead car and a dead phone i'd like to think you'd knock on a door before illegaly hacking someones wifi!
i reported this to the mods but couldnt find who to report it to officialy though i have emailed the C I B (citezens advice beuru) they should be able to advise me where to report this to.you serously believe everyone here just wants to check there wifi security?
I use this software for security testing on several networks, mon amie.
Where are the grammar nazis when you need them, anyway?
/shrugs
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2008-12-17
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#66
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Originally Posted by D'ohboy
I didn't understand your comment because most of the (non-embedded) computers in the world run Windows, and the Windows API is designed for a great deal of backwards-compatibility; there's very little obscure about Windows at all.
I was making a crack at Windows, because they support security through obscurity.
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2008-12-17
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Heh, I guess I should have made a distinction between the obscure of "Man this weeks Robot Chicken referenced a lot of obscure 80's cartoons" and obscure of "The curtain obscured the man behind the curtain."
I also wonder if setting your router to hand out only a limited number of IP addresses would help security.
Last edited by D'ohboy; 2008-12-17 at 02:14.
I also wonder if setting your router to hand out only a limited number of IP addresses would help security.
Last edited by D'ohboy; 2008-12-17 at 02:14.
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2008-12-17
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Originally Posted by D'ohboy
Who is Robot Chicken?
Heh, I guess I should have made a distinction between the obscure of "Man this weeks Robot Chicken referenced a lot of obscure 80's cartoons" and obscure of "The curtain obscured the man behind the curtain."
And Bill Gates might be standing behind the curtain, but I can see his shoes.
Originally Posted by D'ohboy
WPA with a strong password is fine. Unless you're a bank or something.
I also wonder if setting your router to hand out only a limited number of IP addresses would help security.
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2008-12-22
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#69
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Originally Posted by luca
closed source meaning they legally wont let u modify it if one can get their hands on it?
But since the relevant part of the driver is closed source it's impossible to modify, so the only way is using an external adapter.
.. must be someone with spare time and skills to rewrite the internal NIC driver
I'll throw at least $40 in for whoever does it
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2008-12-22
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Originally Posted by Benson
you can guess what's on my xmas wishlist!
..It's a new driver and it's still alpha. (Even if it was the existing driver open-sourced, someone would still need to write an injection patch...)
nice,
cant turn my router off as my server pc would then lose netconnection and i use that to monitier my home while at work
if it was a stormy night and youu had a dead car and a dead phone i'd like to think you'd knock on a door before illegaly hacking someones wifi!
i reported this to the mods but couldnt find who to report it to officialy though i have emailed the C I B (citezens advice beuru) they should be able to advise me where to report this to.you serously believe everyone here just wants to check there wifi security?