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As far as bluetooth mice it recognizes both my kensington models but I can't enter the number for passcode. Anyone have an idea how to get around this? N800 wasn't recognizing these mice before mouse app drivers installed. It would be nice to have bt mice working. Dan

update: on the menu tab at top right of screen where bluetooth icon is my kensington bt mouse shows on menu as "disconnect kensington pocket mouse" as an option. Can't get mouse to pair or work but somehow it recognizes bt mouse and stores info. Go figure. Anyone have any ideas?

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OK, got the same "problem" as Dan with a Kensington PilotMouse Mini Bluetooth. It connects, but seemingly doesn't pair

Anyway, it works now. All you need to do is run /usr/sbin/startMouse.sh, or whatever it was. It works then, but you have to run stopMouse as well when you switch it off. It won't recatch the mouse if it disconnects and reconnects.

Reconnecting, BTW, is as easy as clicking. Yep, one mouse click and it connects, just like one key tap.

And I'm posting this (just for kicks) via rdesktop, with my BT mouse.

I'll try to look'n'learn at udev, see if I can make it work for BT as well...

Oops... missed posting this. Anyway, to make udev do BT:
Code:
sed 's/usb/bluetooth/' </etc/udev/rules.d/z98_usbMouse.rules >/etc/udev/rules.d/z98_btMouse.rules
 
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Awesome, glad everyone's having such good experience with this! Benson, can you give me the content of your z98_usbMouse udev file so that I can add it to the deb? (You can have multiple rules so instead of replacing the USB one I'd just add your BT modified version as a second line so that it will apply to both USB and BT). I imagine it's exactly the same just SUBSYSTEMS="usb" is replaced with SUBSYSTEMS="bluetooth", but I want to make sure as I'm A) too lazy to run the code you posted and B) don't have a BT mouse to test it with right now anyways.

Dan, just plug in a powered USB hub and you can attach both the mouse and network adapter, they will function together as expected. Be sure to connect a USB keyboard as well though or you'll be annoyed at not being able to bring up the onscreen keyboard to type with! In terms of the clicking thing I started researching the other day on what would be required to have the mouse provide "pressure" information for clicks (that way it would work on all parts of the screen without issue); I know that it would have to implement methods from the XInput extension instead of just doing XFakeEvent, but I'm still trying to dig through it. Anyone got any more info/ideas/background on this?

The battery life thing is just due to the fact that the tablet's USB chip is sitting in host mode and doing a lot more work then when it's not connected to anything; as Benson said it really makes sense to use USB for an extended period of time with the tablet plugged in to AC (actually for me that applies to using the tablet for long periods of time regardless of what you're doing, but). Once we get things ironed out and working to the best possible way then it's worth submitting to the repository, but right now I think a bit more testing and development is still required before I'm happy with this.
 
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Originally Posted by jolouis View Post
Awesome, glad everyone's having such good experience with this! Benson, can you give me the content of your z98_usbMouse udev file so that I can add it to the deb? (You can have multiple rules so instead of replacing the USB one I'd just add your BT modified version as a second line so that it will apply to both USB and BT). I imagine it's exactly the same just SUBSYSTEMS="usb" is replaced with SUBSYSTEMS="bluetooth", but I want to make sure as I'm A) too lazy to run the code you posted and B) don't have a BT mouse to test it with right now anyways.
Your imagination is correct! I don't know anything of udev, except what I learned in 5 minutes making that work, but there might be an even better way to have one rule for both, if you can use an OR statement... but copying the whole file was just too easy (& safe) for a first attempt.
 
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I had an idea and it worked. I liked the idea of wireless mouse so I went and bought a wireless usb mouse(the one that has a separate dongle that inserts into usb port). I attached to the usb dongle to the otg adapter turned it on with mouse turned on PRESTO!! Wireless USB mouse. It is faster for some reason than my wired usb mouse. Keep up the great work Jolouis and Benson. This has to be the best mod so far. WOW an otg adapter that handles usb host, Ethernet and now mouse!!! WOOHOO!!!! Cheap Radio Shack wireless usb mouse btw. lol, Dan
 
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#66
Jolouis and Benson checkout this thread on usb audio.

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...t=15452&page=7

Can you make changes to script after patch for usb bt mouse, so we can attach a Predator DAC or similar devices like usb audio headphones? After that how about midi usb script for midi devices.
I will think of more usb related attachments like maybe dvb-h.
Farther out maybe a script for satellite remote control of distant galaxies.
This is a lot of fun. lol, Dan
 
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Brilliant work. Does anyone have some screenshots? Or normal pics if te cursor doesnt show on those
 
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I have learned a lot from this thread, but I am looking for something even greater: The Naykey of the N810 should be able to use as a mouse.

I don't like the Touchscreen too much. My fingers are already on the keyboard for writing emails and URLs. So why would I wand to grab behind the device and take out the stylus? That's especially cumbersome in public transport.

Has anybody an idea how to use the Navkey as mouse?
 
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Okay guys, I was a bit caught up with things on the weekend, but here's the updated package that includes native BT support using Benson's extra rules:

http://www.electronicproductonline.c....1.1_armel.deb

Should just update the existing package when you follow the link.

Dan you just keep getting more and more carried away with this stuff don't you? ;o) I don't really know if USB audio is worth it at the end of the day but I mean if you're after that sort of "IPOD dock" type of deal where you'd use USB to connect up instead of the headphone jack for slightly higher quality audio I guess it would make sense... for headphones and travel things it's a bit silly as it would add considerable power drain and size to the device for only slightly increased quality of an existing feature; however since everyone's interested I'll grab my USB sound card/fm transmitter out of the Jeep 's router and see if it works (might require a USB powered hub though which I happened to leave at home today). These discussions should probably migrate their way back to the USB OTG thread, or at least a new thread discussing what works and doesn't work with USB in general (I know there's the wiki, but is there a thread for that?).

Satelite remote control of distant galaxies? Do you have any idea how long it took me to get that working on my Jeep's router, let along the tablet!
 

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Originally Posted by Cptnodegard View Post
Brilliant work. Does anyone have some screenshots? Or normal pics if te cursor doesnt show on those
Not much point; it looks like normal, only with a cursor...
And my screenshot tool doesn't handle cursor any better than it does portrait mode
 
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