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#61
Originally Posted by tso View Post
after reading article after article about the use of the mobile net, im left with thinking that there are two kinds of people out there:

1. everything in a single device, and as small and showoff-y as one can get it at that. here you have the iphone.

2. redundancy and independence, so that ones whole day dont go to waste over a single device failing. these are the people that carry multiple phone, laptops, pdas, blackberries and whatsnot. its the corporate workhorse, where each device has its own reason for existing, and has its own connection to the net.
Exactly the point. I fall in between both groups. I want one device that does everything and is small so I don't have to carry around my laptop, PDA, cell phone and N800 at the same time. They could have easily put in PDA functions in it as well as openoffice apps but it is marketed as an IT whose sole purpose is to get on the internet and do multimedia.

In that regard, Nokia failed in making the IT more useable to the common user so only geeks will buy the device. But, they also fail for the geeks too.

I admit that I was stupid in buying the N800. I should have researched more. Being from a Windows background and not knowing Linux, I thought it would run all Linux apps since it says it ran Linux. I didn't know there were different versions of Linux (i.e. Debian as well as X86 versions). In that regard, *I* screwed up. But, Nokia also failed by not bundling more apps and marketing it as a competitor to the EE PC (which they could have easily done).

The IT has so much potential which Nokia is not utilizing

the N8x0, having wifi and bluetooth, but no mobile connection of its own, fail for both.

they fail for the first group as its a second device to carry around, and one thats bigger then their phone no less.

they fail for the second group because its reliant on a working phone when outside of wifi range. that means that if the phone goes down, the tablet is worthless as well.

sadly, this is why companion devices, no matter how cool they are in the eyes of the geeks, will fail for the common user...
I agree with your above statement about failing for the common user because it fails as far as i'm concerned for the geek too.

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Originally Posted by Wzrd View Post
I agree with your above statement about failing for the common user because it fails as far as i'm concerned for the geek too.
Speak for yourself. Works great for me.
 
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Speak for yourself. Works great for me.
It works for me in 3 ways but I (as well as a lot of others too it seems) would like it to work in more ways.

1. Easier and lighter to bring out and quickly check the web vs. a laptop
2. Skype/Gizmo
3. IM

I'm not sure how many people are buying an EE PC vs. an IT but they could have easily made it a competitor by adding more apps on the device.

IMO, Nokia is losing out on quite a bit of sales they could otherwise be making.
 
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Nokia's not losing out on any sales. The Nokia Internet Tables (NIT) fits only a sector of the people that want certain things.

If you want an iPhone, you'll buy one. If you want a N95/N96, you'll have one. If you want an EE PC, then you'd have one. But the NIT is a different sector, not one that they had before the introduction of the 770. And they don't really lose sales if people can't find it all in one gadget.

The NIT is loved/hated by the fanatical group here at ITT, myself included; but they don't really lose sales to the uninformed masses that think that N810 should have bluetooth, wifi, wimax and GSM.

I don't mind - nor am I a true fan of - carrying around my iPhone and my N810. But I can't see/agree that Nokia's losing sales because the NIT isn't the end all, say all solution that a lot of us would have loved; but it just isn't.

While traveling, I'm definitely using my N810 for chatting, e-mails, and even SIP calls.
 
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Originally Posted by sherifnix View Post
Lets sum up this thread:

PIM, Sync, Basic Document Editing. Happy day!

I imagine once the tablets have more resources (read: ARM Cortex) I'm sure more developers will be drawn to the ITs. I think the first MIDs are going to be clunky with Intels first attempt to bring x86 into the market. Lets hope this platform is full steam ahead when Intel's gear shows up.
Sounds like you need a Windows Mobile device or a Palm Powered device, not a Nokia Internet Tablet
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#66
I think Google Docs fills the office suit void quite nicely for me. It's a bit rough around the edges running in Microb but ever since I got my bluetooth keyboard for my n800, I've been using Google Docs without much problem. Also, it seems to fit right in with the internet tablet idea, with online storage, publishing, and collaboration. I'm not sure I'd even use a word processor for Maemo unless it it had the same kind of internet enabled features. Just my two cents.
 
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Originally Posted by ghoonk View Post
Sounds like you need a Windows Mobile device
I'd rather give up on technology all together than go down the Windows Mobile route. :-}
 
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Originally Posted by ghoonk View Post
Sounds like you need a Windows Mobile device or a Palm Powered device, not a Nokia Internet Tablet
Oh lord. Windows Mobile. I'm hurt that you would suggest that!

I suppose I should qualify what syncing and PIM is. The iPhone does it right Works just fine with .Mac/OSX and Outlook/Win.

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the issue as i see it with the internet tablet is that it;s a solution waiting for a compelling problem to be solved that would sell a boatload of them. it;s sort of waiting for it's "killer app". now some of you have already found yours. however, it;s seems not be as appealing to the mainstream required to kickstart these devices.

one thing the Iphone has got over Nokia is the "always on Internet". it;s costly but in the end, time and convenience is money too. i tried to whip out my N800 to check some movie times in a crowded place. i first searched for some free internet and couldn;t get connected. then i paired my phone up over bluetooth and after juggling the phone, dropping the stylus and nealy dropping the n800 a couple of times, mission accomplished. that was the last time I tried that stunt as it was just not convenient.

other than that, the N800 is most useful to me for quick "sofa browsing". if i use it for a long time, i might as well have fired up a laptop.

i'll be traveling to europe this week and i want to go without a laptop. i hope there is enough free internet available for me to use the N800 effectively. I am going to try out skype for cheap phone calls back to the US.

the N800 has come along way. the USB hacking being done has unlocked alot of functionality with regards to storage and keyboards so that we might realize the dream of using the N800 as a mini linux laptop independent of a bigger machine. i hope we can go the extra mile to get to where I think we want to be. if we could enable the N800 to use USB modems/aircards it would bring us one step closer to having "internet everywhere" on our own terms and relying on signing up for limited and expensive Wimax service.
 
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Originally Posted by madman999 View Post
the issue as i see it with the internet tablet is that it;s a solution waiting for a compelling problem to be solved that would sell a boatload of them. it;s sort of waiting for it's "killer app". now some of you have already found yours. however, it;s seems not be as appealing to the mainstream required to kickstart these devices.

one thing the Iphone has got over Nokia is the "always on Internet". it;s costly but in the end, time and convenience is money too. i tried to whip out my N800 to check some movie times in a crowded place. i first searched for some free internet and couldn;t get connected. then i paired my phone up over bluetooth and after juggling the phone, dropping the stylus and nealy dropping the n800 a couple of times, mission accomplished. that was the last time I tried that stunt as it was just not convenient.

other than that, the N800 is most useful to me for quick "sofa browsing". if i use it for a long time, i might as well have fired up a laptop.

i'll be traveling to europe this week and i want to go without a laptop. i hope there is enough free internet available for me to use the N800 effectively. I am going to try out skype for cheap phone calls back to the US.

the N800 has come along way. the USB hacking being done has unlocked alot of functionality with regards to storage and keyboards so that we might realize the dream of using the N800 as a mini linux laptop independent of a bigger machine. i hope we can go the extra mile to get to where I think we want to be. if we could enable the N800 to use USB modems/aircards it would bring us one step closer to having "internet everywhere" on our own terms and relying on signing up for limited and expensive Wimax service.
You're aware that you can just leave Bluetooth running in hidden mode on your phone, and the tablet will search for WiFi first, and then hit the cell if it doesn't find anything. That's easily the most seamless part of the tablet, is connectivity.
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