Thanks for clarifying.

True, but then the addition of the radio is useless (to me) and has - even if in some small way - increased the cost for no good reason.

Indeed.

Agreed. If this was Bugzilla, it'd be tagged "MOREINFO" ;-)

lol... thanks Jaffa. That last remark still has me grinning.

I do not switch off my N95 on a plane. I just put it offline (it turns off the radio part), and I use the N95 as a music player. I never had problems with this (and I travel often).

You probably can do the same with N900

Heh.. quite fun to read the views on the HSPA. I suspect it will not increase the cost by 25%. Therefore, for most average joe consumers (that Nokia is obviously aiming for in the end) will appreciate having that choise. As for the operating cost: turn it off.

Anyway, I think the other new specs are equally interesting and it would be fun to hear a bit more views on those. HD cam could mean anything from 1mp up. My guess is about E90 quality cam. The new processor should also speed up things nicely.

Any speculation/rumors on Haptikos being on it?

to bad i can no longer turn wifi off and keep bluetooth on in diablo like i could in chinook, thanks to "switch on bt"...

Another way of dealing with 2 celllular bills can be...

For the primary cell phone service have a family plan addon for 10$ a month. That can take care of incoming and emergency calls.

And then you have the unlimited hspa for 30$ a month.

That way you can keep your bill below 50.

That is how i plan to do it.

I would try to make most of my calls via skype so that i do not use much of my family plan minutes.

Jaffa, in the UK Three offer their 1gb "mobile-broadband" package on Pay-as-you-go as an add-on for £10 per month. Or, if you just want mostly web/mail (ie no VOIP, VPN etc...) they're £5 internet add-on gives you 1gb of traffic for 30 days.

It works fine for me; I rarely make a phone call or send a text from my phone, I use it as a bluetooth modem with their £5 add-on. I figured that if (when) there was an Nx00 with HSPA I'd put my PAYG sim in it and get another for my phone.

See http://www.internettablettalk.com/wi...United_Kingdom, you can get HSDPA access from 3 for as low as a fiver/month.

Well, sorta...

Skype, Gizmo, Comcast, Bongo, Truphone, Vontage, and everyone else that does a SIP will have to get on board with doing something according to a standard and then take down the ego side that says what they are doing is more profit making than what another is doing. By rules of a free market, two or three will come out on top as the most used, and then the rest will fight over niche opinions from users.

Does Nokia (Google, carriers, and cable cos) have the moxie and the power to create a standard for such use. Because that would indeed make for the end (or at least a heck of a suite of competition) for voice services as we know them now.

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Given what we have seen about the Internet Tablet timeline, it would seem to me that the next device to be released would be something that's more of a replacement to the 770 than anything else. Something of a kit device that is almost like the low end car in a model series. Something to display the product, and development potential, but open the door to the N800 being replaced with something a bit more advanteageous.

Now, putting together a few dispiarate facts:
- we could see an AMOLED screen considering Nokia's recent request to increase production of said screen types
- we should see at least one new web browser, maybe two
- some type of video out would be there
- and maybe a new suite of development tools considering the jump that this should be for the platform

All in all, seems like Nokia/Maemo is setting up a bigger snowball from the device side than just an increase in device specs. Something says that Step 5 could indeed be like the Morph Concept, if not exactly (nanotech is a beatly subject) but given the OS advancement, the functionality could open the hardware to look and be considerably different.

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I want to sit and agree that HSDPA will be bad for the platform; and it could be. Given what we have seen from the wireless manangement issues and successes of the current ITs, it would be something rightly called into question.

However, it would be shortsighted to see the opening more of the platform in this respect as something that would kill it. What will kill it is pricing, legislation, and a general mismarketing of the device. I'm hopeful that in pricing and marketing that Nokia will get it right. Not because they want to, but because of devices like the HTC Touch HD, Xperia X1, Toshiba G910, and iPhone which are all very similar devices and now all have a very similar feature set and aim.

To take that view that adding this will be bad though is to be stuck in a comfortable place in one's way of use and you no longer want to be challenge. Open source, mobile, and internet technologies are about challenging and changing paradigms for the betterment of all. Some steps are easier to see than others, some are easier to attain than others. But a step forward is always a step into an uncomfortable unknown. Given how much the ITT community has stood by a tablet that has pretty much marketed itself, its probably time to put down the defensive mindset that change is bad, and pick up the mindset that you are leaders in a type of computing that is very much the stuff of dreams.

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Nokia becoming a services company that leverages open source methodologies and technologies will pit private industries against and with governaments for matters of communication. Reminds me a bit of the history of the Christian church, wonder if anyone is studying history and trying not to repeat the same mistakes.

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