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2008-10-17
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First, my icons and such are animating properly. I've occasionally had strange things happen (not stoppage for icons) that usually disappear upon a reboot. The problem sounds like the icon cache (and or a full internal flash or full memory/swap)
The reason for my last post is I restored my n800 to as close to factory as I could get, then did the updates the app manager recommended, enabled and disabled the extras repository - without actually installing anything - and whatever database appmanager is using is already broken.
I'm already in red-pill or apt-get territory (to fix things or make them work) and I haven't installed a single application.
I would like nothing better than to have everything just work. It doesn't/won't. And I've done this a half-dozen times on two different tablets and same thing each time. The AppManager goes strange within a day after a clean flash. apt-get works but it won't remember the applications I install for a restore, and AppManager eventually refuses to resolve dependencies. I have no idea why, it just lists things in "problems" that shouldn't be there. So to get anything installed with AppManager I have to go into red-pill and manually install every app, library, data, whatever one at a time working up the dependency tree. But once I enable red-pill, they say everything is completely unsupported so they won't fix anything.
And I am really frustrated (can't you tell) since their install system doesn't work for normal packages for me, meanwhile I'm trying to figure out how to package my app that has a dependency on something which is a utility and probably less obscure than half of the things I listed as already being user visible from Extras (or when it is turned off like libuiw) and they tell me I don't understand. No, I don't.
Is the current state of my n800 what Nokia expects (extras on or off)?
Are those "user" blue pill packages?
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2008-10-17
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2008-10-17
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2008-10-17
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Interestingly enough, if I haven't paired the device using the hildon BT applet, but have the right address, it will still connect if the address is right.
I'll have to look further into the wifi degradation. I submitted a bug report (but I thought l2ping was better - doing rfcomm and letting it fail I remember killed the wifi).
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3238
Maybe the bug should get a few more votes.
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2008-10-17
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2008-10-17
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2008-10-17
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2008-10-18
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2008-10-18
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I'm going to see what I can do about using it for the built in map program instead of the normal gpsd. .
For those that the statusbar doesn't work for the BT stuff, could you check in /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/minigpsd-sb.py to see if it says import gconf or import gnome.gconf near the top? And can you set the Web Title?
If you look closely, the icon displays the satellites with signal strength. Those teeny blue to red to yellow to white dots. I know, you can't see them, but I'm working on that. It turns out that it is faster and easier in many ways to have minigpsd generate a pixmap than to try to do so in python from a datastream.
Start only when stopped, Stop only when started is also on my list now. I thought about it but I'll bump it up.
You also need to run minigpsd as user, not root (and/or remove anything in /tmp that may have been put there as root). It uses "sudo l2ping..." to determine if the configured bluetooth devices are there. To do that it adds an entry to /etc/sudoers but root cannot run sudo so gives that error.
I'll also try to setup my zdez.org site as a repository - I've looked at that, but as I've mentioned on MY tablet, Application manager isn't working normally. But I can take advantage of the newly reflashed to see what is going on.
The problem with mirroring bluez-utils-test is that they go with (and I think are part of) the bluez stack itself, so when bluez-* in the main section gets updated, any mirror in extras will break the dependency, or not reflect changes made in the mainline bluez stack source.
And one final word about AppManager - yes, I understand the behavior, but I still think it is bizarre or imbecilic. One goal (which only seems to be there when I complain about invisibility of non-user packages) is "think of the user, noobs need to be able to have a clean list of apps". And when doing a mere enable-disable puts junk in the list, and the enabled list is far from user only? Well, that is how it is supposed to work even though any average user would be completely confused. Before worrying about the next release, they should first untangle the contradictory goals of the application manager, repositories, categories, whatever, for the existing Diablo release. It shouldn't be this hard or confusing either for first time users, power users, or developers.
I am tempted to port one of the managers or write a python front-end of my own.