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#61
on the digital camera thing, its become a marketing issue.

iirc, a company tried to move away from reporting megapixels, and had their sales drop like a rock.

megapixels have become what hertz is to a cpu, a measuring stick for those that want to think they are in the know when buying of the shelf goods at some local store.
 

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It always sickens/saddens me that advertising has to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

But then, I am actually ridiculed by some friends and family for having a large (ie, writer's) vocabulary.
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#63
keyboard similar to N810 one + 5 buttons (mapped to F6-F10) + camera buttons (shutter, focus)
Originally Posted by fanoush View Post
escape sends normal key code for escape key and d-pad sends up/down/left/right/enter so is should be OK, what surprised me is that current tablets map those buttons to F4-F8

I'm not following the progression here. Are the buttons mapped to F6-F10 instead of F4-F8 because there are two additional buttons for the camera? So everything is the same except for the additional buttons...
 
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#64
Originally Posted by ragnar View Post
On a touch screen the critical value is the physical size of the screen.
For touching buttons that's true, but when browsing a web page reduced to fit on a small screen every bit of extra resolution helps readability.

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Obviously there's a tradeoff, ie sweetspot, and I think the current resolution is pretty much it.
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Originally Posted by TA-t3 View Post
I've got two cameras of nearly the same model, the only difference is that one is 6 megapixels and the other 8 (IIRC).. everything else is the same. Most importantly, the CCD is the same size, so the 8MP version has smaller pixels.

The result? Smaller pixels: Smaller light-collecting area. Less photons: the light sensitivity went out the window. The 'new' higher-pixel model is close to useless compared to the earlier model, as the 6MP version works just fine in twilight while it's difficult to even focus in indoor lightning or cloudy afternoon with the 8MP version. And, as the new model compensates for less light sensitivity by slowing down the shutter I get much shakier images.

No, give me max. 6-7MP any day, the pixel mania only results in bigger pictures for no reason, and less light sensitivity. At least for compact cameras. The best SLR cameras (with large CCDs too) can afford many megapixels, but I wish they could leave the compact cameras (and by extension, phone cameras) out of this *****ic race. Heck, it's quite impossible to buy anything below 10MP these days - I've tried. Argh..
While MP is marketing blurb (CCD is far more important) the quality of cameras recent (0-2 years) phones Nokia phones in N-Series has been remarkably high, and steadily gotten better as well. For many people and purposes its good enough. Some even include Xenon flash. Likewise, zoom only matters on the lens (optical zoom).
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Originally Posted by fanoush View Post

- accelerometer (lis302dl)
This is a nice addition as well. I'm assuming ASR (auto screen rotation) as well as image stabilization for the cam.
 
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Image stabilisation might not be there realistically, depends on what the accelerometer is setup to detect (should be in the spec sheet) and I would imagine that autofocus would be provided by the autofocus/zoom/stabilisation/feather waving driver.
 
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Originally Posted by vvaz View Post
Still would like 1000x600 screen: more useful in not-fullscreen; desktop apps should fit gracefully.
No thank you. I use OpenOffice on the tablet and the text (at our 225 dpi) on the dropdown menus is so tiny that you need a very steady hand to tap the correct item on the menu. I can't imagine pushing that resolution even higher! We would need Fresnel lenses as in Brazil (or maybe something like a Nanoscope) in order to use desktop apps.

Originally Posted by vvaz View Post
About 5Mpx camera: it is even too big. Quality from N9x isn't breathtaking. To reduce Bayer effects you have to resize 50% getting 1.25Mpx in effect. Would preffer *real* 3Mpx any day.
I second that. A big 3Mpx CCD would be great.

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But then, I am actually ridiculed by some friends and family for having a large (ie, writer's) vocabulary.
Do you also find yourself mocked, derided, jeered-at, sneered-at, taunted and scorned? Yeah, me too.
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Originally Posted by lardman View Post
Image stabilisation might not be there realistically, depends on what the accelerometer is setup to detect (should be in the spec sheet) and I would imagine that autofocus would be provided by the autofocus/zoom/stabilisation/feather waving driver.
My assumption comes from the implementation in the N-series 5MP phones. The N95 has an accelerometer that was originally only used for image stabilization. It wasn't until later that Nokia opened this up and included ASR in the N95 series phones and also allow developers access to it to develop their own apps (RotateMe, ShutUp, Lightsaber, etc.) And, no, I'm not looking for a lightsaber app for my new tablet. I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen Nokia do in the past with accelerometer. I'm not a code guy so I haven't dug into the alpha release to see what exact accel options there are but maybe others can speak to this? Or maybe you already did?
 
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