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#61
According to Quim in the comments of Bug 3929, someone needs to open a specific bug asking that the toolbar(s) get moved to the side instead of the bottom, or even better, a way to move the toolbar(s) to any edge (left, right, top, bottom) the user prefers. And you also need to provide a patch to do it, so that the osso-xterm guy, Gabriel, can add it.

(Well, there's no guarantee that he'll add it, but I wish I was a programmer so I could try anyway.)

Any programmers out there able to provide this patch? Or is there a version already out there that can have the relevant code diff'ed out and posted as a patch?
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Here's a screenshot of current osso-xterm in fremantle SDK
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Is bash in freemantle, or must we suffer busybox again?

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Originally Posted by fnordianslip View Post
Is bash in freemantle, or must we suffer busybox again?
Why would Nokia ship it if they don't need to? If you want it, use apt-get (and probably don't make bash symlinked from /bin/sh).
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Originally Posted by fms View Post
as XTerm itself rarely requires mouse input
Well, you need it to select text and (in Fremantle) scroll.
 
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Originally Posted by fnordianslip View Post
Is bash in freemantle, or must we suffer busybox again?
It is in the repository, but that's probably just for scratchbox (as in Diablo). Bash is the default interactive shell in Mer though (/bin/sh is dash).
 
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Originally Posted by fnordianslip View Post
Is bash in freemantle, or must we suffer busybox again?
Well, the busybox shipping with Fremantle is newer and has many more features enabled.

The performance benefits of using busybox over GNUtils and bash are non-trivial. Although power users may be making some sacrifices with busybox, the vast majority of users will appreciate significantly improved startup times.
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Originally Posted by fms View Post
I hate to disappoint you, but there is much easier way to have a decent on-screen keyboard in XTerm. Simply overlay it over entire screen: as XTerm itself rarely requires mouse input, you can just as well use the whole screen as a virtual keyboard.

PS: In fact, this modification has already been applied to the current Diablo XTerm, quite successfully.
I own a nice ssh client that uses keyboard and function overlays. For quick stuff here and there it works fine. And maybe even for text messages or forum posts a translucent keyboard would be reasonable. But I often edit and stare at code, and I've found my side keyboard terminal program to be the most productive solution at the moment. My opinion is that being really productive on a smart phone is an open frontier, and I'm not convinced we've seen the best solutions yet. And if an apathetic person like myself gave it a try, it's likely others are thinking about it also. Maybe.
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Well, the busybox shipping with Fremantle is newer and has many more features enabled.
However it's been frozen at 1.10.2 since at least prealpha2 (it wasn't included in the first one) which is getting a bit long in the tooth now, and is not even the latest 1.10 patchlevel (which had already been 6 months old at the time prealpha2 came out).

The performance benefits of using busybox over GNUtils and bash are non-trivial. Although power users may be making some sacrifices with busybox, the vast majority of users will appreciate significantly improved startup times.
Busybox ash sucks as an interactive shell. With the extra rootfs legroom in Fremantle having bash preinstalled and used as root's and user's login shell by default (while keeping ash as /bin/sh) would make "power" users happy without sacrificing performance or delaying startup.
 
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Originally Posted by mikkov View Post
Here's a screenshot of current osso-xterm in fremantle SDK
What is this strange and bad looking font that is being used in Fremantle anyway? Where is the marvelous Nokia font? I am a big fan of the Nokia font, I love it that many applications use it in Maemo... The xterm, for example, uses it in the toolbox. What is this skinny thing they are trying to make us swallow??
 
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