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2009-08-29
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Lets keep makiing more threads about the N900!
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Originally Posted by Milhouse
I feel the same about how they (any manufacturer) can justify those asking prices. So I just lay back and let others pay those prices then I come in and buy the product when prices lose some hot air.
As an example of component cost, the OMAP3530 can be had for $22 in quantities of 1,000 - just think what kind of price Nokia are paying for the lower spec 3430. The CPU and screen are going to be by far the most expensive components any phone, everything else (WiFi/BT/GPS/Accelerometer/DRAM/Flash/Battery) will be single digit dollars.
As I say, I don't begrudge Nokia or Apple or anyone else a profit for their labours but when you cost up the components that goes into these devices, which are then sold by the million, it gets a little hard to consider the price they are sold at as anything but "fair".
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2009-08-29
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Originally Posted by ysss
If this poll is anything to go by there are a number of people who won't be paying the asking price!
"Fair" is whatever the market is willing to pay for something.
Obviously when we get the device in our hands that opinion could change...
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2009-08-29
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Originally Posted by TrueJournals
That would be all well and good, except for the fact that the mobile phone makers "hitch" their premium phones to a specific carrier (at least in the US). And conversely, the carriers have but one premium phone:
It's a phone. The idea is that part of the price will be subsidized by carriers.
- Verizon - Blackberry Storm
- AT&T - iP0wn3d
- T-Mobile - N900
What does this mean to us as mobile phone users? We have but a few choices:
- Carry two mobile phone plans. In order to get the best price on the devices, a two year plan.
- Buy an unlocked phone at full price, thereby negating the benefits of the carrier subsidizing the phone
- Cancel one carrier and take up with the carrier that has the phone you desire. This ranges between $175 and $200 early termination fee per line with the old carrier.
Option 1, figure a phone plan with data would be anywhere between $100 and $200/month. So for the sake of argument, let's say the low end of the range. Thats still $1200/year, plus the cost of the N900.
Option 2 would be a flat $700. If you buy one from TMobile, you have to worry that it will be crippled on AT&T's network.
Option 3 is the same as option 1 plus $175/line (in my case 2). The other thing is that you would wind up doing this every 1 or 2 years as the phones change among the carriers.
--vr
So regardless of which way I go, the N900 will cost me something close to $1000 at a minimum. And regardless of how many years you have been with a carrier, you will get charged with this. When I switched over to AT&T from Verizon, I had been a VZN customer for 6 years, but they still tried to charge me for early termination.
This is why the carriers and manufacturers annoy me.
Originally Posted by crabolsky
Exactly the same boat I am in. Whats more, for me, is that my blackberry is flaky, so I need to replace it. Of course, if I do, that stretches my contract out to another 2 years. 1 year warranty for phone hardware, 2 year contract.
Since technically it is a phone an unsubsidized price of $699 sounds right in line with the iPhone or HTC. However I do think that it is unfortunate that we won't have an option without 3g plan (ala n810 senario). As much as I would love to get back on board with a new Nokia tablet, Ian not going to get onboard with a 2year tmoble contract as I already have a year left with AT&T.
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Originally Posted by Milhouse
Yes.. that's why a singular 'fair' price doesn't exist. It depends on who, when and why...
If this poll is anything to go by there are a number of people who won't be paying the asking price!
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2009-08-29
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I think the price is reasonable. The only thing crazy is buying a phone that costs 600 EUR. 
People complaining about +700 USD prices should consider that the dollar is declining (1 EUR = 1.42 USD) and they have to pay more and more.
If something beats the iPhone and is still cheaper, it's a good deal.
People complaining about +700 USD prices should consider that the dollar is declining (1 EUR = 1.42 USD) and they have to pay more and more.
If something beats the iPhone and is still cheaper, it's a good deal.
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2009-08-29
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Originally Posted by Milhouse
Er, what? The OMAP3430 is virtually identical to the OMAP3530. Arguably it's actually a higher spec chip since it comes in a smaller package (smaller ball-pitch) and has more features. Basically the only difference between the OMAP35x and the OMAP34x is that OMAP35x is a catalog part.
As an example of component cost, the OMAP3530 can be had for $22 in quantities of 1,000 - just think what kind of price Nokia are paying for the lower spec 3430.
At least get the facts straight before you damn them outright.
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2009-08-29
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Remember that the other big thing you're paying for is all of those full-time open source developers Nokia finances. . . .
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2009-08-29
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Fair enough GA, I thought the 35xx had a higher spec and your comment explains why I could find no pricing details for the 3430!
Er, what? The OMAP3430 is virtually identical to the OMAP3530. Arguably it's actually a higher spec chip since it comes in a smaller package (smaller ball-pitch) and has more features. Basically the only difference between the OMAP35x and the OMAP34x is that OMAP35x is a catalog part.
At least get the facts straight before you damn them outright.
Does android have support for 160x120 screen, btw? :P