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2009-09-06 , 17:47
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ROFL!! Slightly off topic, but I just noticed the tag for this thread. I love it!!
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in the words of savage, "i reject your reality and substitute my own!"
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Can you provide a link?
CELEX 399L0044. Link.
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We would need those because WiFi doesn't support roaming and it doesn't provide as good coverage as 3G. As for what happened to those, you might like the FON principle.
I would think roaming would be trivial. You would just connect to all the wifi points near you and send out the same information to all wifi points. The server would just drop all the redundant packets and send the response to all wifi points and the client would drop all the redundant packets. So in theory, you would pass from wifi point to wifi point seamlessly. Microsoft has been doing research into virtual wifi adapters, which would go a long way into wifi roaming.
 
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout View Post
CELEX 399L0044. Link.
Well, that's an interpretation of the directive I linked to, so it's not something new or different: the manufacturer is not directly responsible, the seller is.
 
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I would think roaming would be trivial. You would just connect to all the wifi points near you and send out the same information to all wifi points. The server would just drop all the redundant packets and send the response to all wifi points and the client would drop all the redundant packets. So in theory, you would pass from wifi point to wifi point seamlessly. Microsoft has been doing research into virtual wifi adapters, which would go a long way into wifi roaming.
still, this would mean that just about every server program out there would have to be updated to handle the concept that you can have multiple connections from different addresses, but one user, and that the request from one place should go to all on the list.

how would basic session management be handled?

it may work for static news pages or similar, but any kind of rich page like a forum or gmail could potentially break at any moment, or risk sending data to a address thats now held by a different user.
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2009-09-07 , 15:01
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ioioio, roaming can be trivial, if the right setup is done. I know of plenty of people who've made seamless roaming wireless networks using the "dumb node" system. The trick is the range of the transmitter. And right now, for private and in building corporate use, B and G are plenty. But for what is being considered here, nothing less than 2x Wireless N will do. If it doesn't have the range, it won't work as intended. That's why 3G towers are so strong. To be practical, each of your towers would need a 15-20 mile range, at the minimum. In higher density areas, 1-2 miles would be plenty. But that's still a ton farther than the couple hundred feet of Wireless G right now, or few thousand of Wireless N.
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yes, you can do wireless roaming, but that would mean that you have one source of ip address, but with multiple access points reporting to the same ssid.

but thats basically one network again, just like a mobile phone network.

i was under the impression that one would be roaming wifi provided by private and local businesses, with no central control of any kind...
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How so? Or are you thinking of sales tax + income tax?
Not VAT (Mehrwertsteuer in German, Value Added Tax is the direct translation of that) of 19% when buying things or paying for craftsmen (then it is called Umsatzsteuer, which funnily translates to sales tax). Plus a variable income tax between 14% and 45% (progressive) depending on how much you earn.
 
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That's the price you pay for free universal healthcare, free education up to PhD, and relatively comprehensive social security.
Free universal healthcare? You mean free as in "14.9% of my income every month"? Yeah, then we have that.

Free education is also diminishing over here in germany, though still much cheaper than in the US.
 
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