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#61
Hi groeit,

I am probably among the very few ppl not bothered at all by the news. I still would be interested to know if N900 will have Maemo 6/MeeGo update option, but my suggestions would be for Nokia to encourage developers by:
1) Getting the OVI Store right.
2) Give developers better incentives (hey let's say developing for Maemo/MeeGo, OVI Store would only take 15% of the revenue since those developers are also part of the beta testing program!)
3) At least guarantee Maemo 5 will have QT4.6 update with Maemo 6 UI/MeeGo Framework support so developers can be convinced that the platform stability is not that worse.

Of course, now that we have MeeGo it should be easier to convince developers to develop for that, maybe not now but maybe some time in Q2-Q3 more info come out.

As for the whole Nokia giving up on Maemo 5/N900 topic, I too think Nokia should provide an upgrade path for N900 since the hardware is perfectly capable of what the new Maemo 6 device could handle. But that part is out of my control, so what I see now is N900 getting better and better after each firmware update, and the MeeGo news actually changes nothing since:
1) No one ever promises Maemo 6 will be available on N900... so it's the same situation regardless of when Maemo 6 (and now MeeGo) come out.
2) Nokia has been urging developers to develop on QT4.6 so the app will run on Maemo 6 (and now MeeGo, and also Maemo 5 PR1.2)

This merge might cast some doubt on commercial developers.... but eventually they would join the MeeGo train because, well, Nokia will have MeeGo phones/tablets/whatever in the near future. As we can sort of estimate, Maemo 6 will be more "mom-friendly" so that opens up a larger market compared with Maemo 5. And the good news is that you can start developing for Maemo 5 today and carry on throughout Maemo 6 to MeeGo. I think the key issue to all this commercial developer problem would improve a lot if OVI Store functions correctly.... Angry Bird's success alone will attract some indie developers. Afterall, money talks, if there is a success story, you can tell money is there. If there is not, you have to look at the number of unit sold X probability of each user buying an app = not that convincing for N900, even if Maemo6/MeeGo is coming out 5 years later.
 

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Originally Posted by GotGlint View Post
this is the kind of post that's rather unfortunate and way too regular here.

The OP is making vailid points about real end users concerns, about a brand new phone, and is getting dismissed as a whinging crank.

They absolutly have not clarified the future of the n900 at all. and any beliefs that it will be well supported, or get or not get Maemo 6 are just that. groundless beliefs based on patchy interperatations.

it would be EASY for nokia to clarify things one way or the other.
Even bad news is better than not knowing.
Oh please, my original post was clearly not aimed at the people worried about the N900 being supported other wise I'd have posted the same crap to the *many* other threads asking exactly the same question.

My post was aimed at the original poster who was busy stroking their ego telling us all how he's "in" with Nokia and could get answers that no one else could get.

Why, if he's so in with Nokia, he would need support from us lower class users I'm not too sure. Why also he would need to tell us in advance about his intention to write this letter to Nokia I'm not sure either. To me it seems pretty unprofessional way of going about it. That was what my sarcasm was aimed at.

As for it being easy for Nokia to clarify things you seem to forget that they are a business. If they come out and say "N900 wont run Maemo 6, but we will continue to support Maemo 5" (which is what I believe is the case) all that will be reported is "Nokia drop support for N900, wont run Maemo 6" and they wont sell one more N900. Given that the OS is free, how do you expect Nokia to fund maemo/meego if they aren't making money from hardware sales?
 
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Originally Posted by Dancairo View Post
oh god, and another one rears his head...moan moan moan, blah blah blah, yadda yadda...for gods sake, i'm sick of coming on here and seeing whinging ********.
Did you not do some research before buying it?
I dont know if you spend 600eur / 800$ into the N900 but a lot of People did. Like i said in the Meego Thread when the N900 cames on my radar i was looking at the IRC and in this Forum (oct 09) there where NO WORD about that M6 wont be supported by the N900.

Its easy to say didnt you research damn the n900 isnt a community driven thing like some small linux distri where you can say if you dont like use another .. its not for cheap. For sure its not an easy to use click and fun device like an iphone.

But we are talking about costumers they see maybe the blogs wow you can use a ps3 controller and play NES wow thats cool.. sure it is but you cant really await that they all reading the Threads here before. Take a look at the Nokia Page now they still selling this Device with there shiny marketing.

Some People talked about the good Community here i agree but since a few weeks i read to often TROLL and some other i got the bigger IT balls comments. Its like you go to an hacker IRC where the script kiddies have there playground..

I wish we could do a simple mature discussion about the Problems, Bugs , and the Future of the N900.

Sorry this was a little OT ;D so i hope the open Letter to Nokia will arrive the right Peoples and we can have a long livetime for the N900.

best regards Crown

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Originally Posted by AlMehdi View Post
I was all sold on buying the SonyEricsson Xperia X10 until i noticed N900 with debian based Maemo. I use Ubuntu on my desktop which also are built from debian. I changed my desktop to Ubuntu cause of my disliking of rpm. If the Maemo project had gone on my next device would probably have been a Nokia. Now i am not to sure anymore.

My three demands are:
1. Free and Open
2. Debian
3. GTK+ apps

I think the merge with Intel was correct but the move from debian to rpm crazy. I do not choose a device be cause of hardware. I choose it be cause of it's operating system.

/Daniel.
I agree completely. I choose n900 because its Debian which I use on server and my desktop also. And as long as they keep Debian at its core, its fine with me.
 
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Originally Posted by crown77 View Post
I dont know if you spend 600eur / 800$ into the N900 but a lot of People did. Like i said in the Meego Thread when the N900 cames on my radar i was looking at the IRC and in this Forum (oct 09) there where NO WORD about that M6 wont be supported by the N900.
I spent 635€ on it, so that qualifies me to answer right? Well, there was NO WORD that M6 won't be supported on N900, but there was NO WORD it will be supported either. As a matter of fact, there still is NO WORD on both of those stances. You assumed that it will be supported, and assumption is the mother of all f-ups.

Originally Posted by crown77 View Post
I wish we could do a simple mature discussion about the Problems, Bugs , and the Future of the N900.
I wish that, too. However with this kind of whining that's just impossible. There are quite a lot of mature discussions on t.m.o, this one ain't one of them.
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hi zwer, so i just wasnt await if i buy a nokia device that the firmware called maemo5 will run out that fast and replaced by a maemo6 / meego and that this is maybe not supported. I mean common i buyed my n9 2 month ago as my personal xmas present..

A little whineing about the way this goes should be allowed. But i agree to you there are a lot of mature discussions here but also a lot of this "you are a troll" based.

Iam open for the new meego too just was take a look at the moblin ui looks really greate in my eyes a good concept. If this comes to the N9 anybody will be happy here iam sure.

peace iam out
 
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Originally Posted by groeit View Post
@SirMutley, can you tell me that maemo 5 is a mature OS? It still shouldnt be released. And maemo6 is coming out in 3rd quarter of this year, so.
This reminds me of Vista and Windows 7. We all know what happened here.
 
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Originally Posted by KurrentEweser View Post
This reminds me of Vista and Windows 7. We all know what happened here.
yes but windows 7 runs on laptops with win xp/Vista. I just sent an email to Nokia USA on their website regarding an Issue I have with my n900... They don't even have the n900 listed in their supported phones (drop down menu) for me to select. But to be fair I dont know if it was ever an option to select. It is my first email to the support.

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well i dont really mind personally about the announcement of maemo 6/meego etc..i usually change phone every 8-9months..BUT...i totally agree with the frustrated people that paid a lot of money for N900..it is ridiculous for a company to announce a phone(n900), ship it 2 months later than they had planned, having many many problems, and after of 2 months of availability announcing completely new OS(and ofcourse new device..M6 will support multitouch..so no M6 for N900). and i was laughing @apple................
 
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